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Women Burned Out At 30!
Topic Started: Friday, 28. September 2007, 13:09 (2,051 Views)
James
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Not sinful neglect.
You looked after the garden very well - how could that be sinful neglect.
I got one of those machines and although it kept the cats away - the mice came round to play- so I had to switch it off again.
But then - I only bought a cheaper model.

I hope these burnt out ladies are learning from all this free wisdom and advice !!
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Rose of York
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I ask:

Is it moral for one mother to go out to play golf, have a coffee or an alcoholic drink with a friend, go out for lunch or swimming, but immoral for her poorer friend to take a part time job? Some mothers team up to have each other's children when one wants to take a break. Motherhood is not 9 till 5. Give the ladies a break.
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James
Oct 1 2007, 01:18 PM
Not sinful neglect.
You looked after the garden very well  -  how could that be sinful neglect.



MAN! Read and answer the question please.


Rose of York
Oct 1 2007, 01:14 PM
is it acceptable for a mother to dig holes at home, but not in the workplace, as an employee.

Keep the Faith!

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For us the problem is, we need me to have a steady full time job to pay the bills (and our mortgage is WELL under £200,000). It's this necessity of having to work full time that prevents me from doing what I really want to do which is paint and write novels! I could probably manage to do them working part time.

I expect there are millions of women out there like me...

Still, maybe when my girls are older...
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Rose of York
Oct 1 2007, 12:41 PM

  Some mothers team up to have each other's children when one wants to take a break.

Rose.

Should "have" not read "mind" or "look after" .
Could give a wrong impression and we would not want that.
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Karin
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I work part-time as a retail manager. I write full-time as a published novelist. And when I can, I find time for volunteer chaplaincy at the hospital. Mick works full time at the university and writes part-time. Together we find what's important for us to do....the dusting must wait!

But then, we don't have children. And now, we don't have pets (boo hoo), so there are no "encumbrances" on our time in that sense. We often write together, as we are working at the same work table. I have no idea how some women balance everything, because just keeping to my schedule wears me out!

But when I was younger (in my late 20's and early 30's), I worked 80-90 hours a week managing a restaurant, then 50-60 hours a week when I went into outside sales, along with taking care of my mother. Those were two full-time jobs at the same time. When you are single, paying all the bills with responsibilities at home as well, I can see why women (and probably some men) can get burned out at any age. It's not the 'having it all' syndrome, but due to our economies, necessities of life. I'm sure we can all agree our monetary society has gotten out of hand and things are so expensive, we either work constantly just to pay the normal bills, work even more if we want something in addition or cut back on those things which really aren't important (just nice to have). Balancing one's income with the outgo seems to be a full-time job in itself!

As we get older, a lot of the things we thought were important to have aren't really that necessary and we end up giving things away to the kids for their families, donating them to rummage sales or to charity. As long as there is a nice warm fire, a cuppa and some bickies at the end of the day (along with my footstool), then I'm happy! Some nice, fat commission checks would be great, too.
Karin

Hvaljen Isus i Marija. Kraljica Mira, moli za nas.
"Praised be Jesus and Mary. Queen of Peace, Pray for Us."

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Your post made me smile Karin.

When I got back from having visited my mother, I thought I'd done well because I managed to fit in a quick dust of the TV (I never normally look at it - hence the gathering of dust!) and our piano (which just gets dusty anyway, even when it IS used).

You are right, dust will always gather... It certainly doesn't need doing daily. I'm on a roll if I manage to dust the large items weekly. Smaller items, well it would be embarrassing to confess as to how often I manage to dust them...
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James
Oct 1 2007, 12:13 PM
Mrs Jamie.

You are still keeping me guessing about this book of yours.
Is it mystery and suspense with supernatural powers interwoven to form a complex thriller that will hold me in suspense until the very last line when all will be revealed.
Or - one of those sloppy romance stories for the girls. :wacko:

Neither of the above - it is a children's story and having written it almost by accident, I was very lucky (make that VERY LUCKY) to be approached about it by a publisher who had seen me on TV.

And no, James, I am not J K Rowling - or even the NEXT J K Rowling.... but sometimes you just happen to be in the right place at the right time.
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Several of my friends were friends with Joanne Rowling as a child as she came from the area where I live now.

X Potter (real surname) in my daughter's class at primary school was / is very proud of the fact that Harry is based on her father!
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Mrs Jamie

I have to say Rowling is someone I admire greatly - she seems to me to be the epitome of graceful celebrity - modest, unassuming and the generous supporter of a great many good causes.

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Mrs J

Can you PM me the name of your book - so we don't get the moderators (and other posters possibly) annoyed by going off topic.

Also what age is it for please? Though my own daughters are now teenagers I have 8 nephews and nieces in total ranging from age 11 to nearly 1. There is one girl in particular (10) who always has her head in a book.

Many thanks.

Back to topic now people... :D
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Quicunque vult

Rose wrote:

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Emme's posting, Sep 30 2007, 11:21 PM says it all. She needs to work. She never wanted to. We are not all in a position to influence house prices. Blame the banks and media for that. The result is that mothers and fathers are in a difficult situation.


No - blame the feminist politicians of the 1970s and their gullible electorates for introducing equal pay legislation, and yes perhaps the media. Until then, mortgages were based on the man's income alone. Now, unless both husband and wife are working, there is no chance of getting a mortgage. That is an example of the utter stupidity of relativism.

Unfortunately, the Church was still reeling from the post-Conciliar dissent to challenge the politicians, at a time when her voice might still have carried weight in secular quarters.

QV
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Quicunque vult
Oct 1 2007, 09:49 PM
Rose wrote:

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Emme's posting, Sep 30 2007, 11:21 PM says it all. She needs to work. She never wanted to. We are not all in a position to influence house prices. Blame the banks and media for that. The result is that mothers and fathers are in a difficult situation.


No - blame the feminist politicians of the 1970s and their gullible electorates for introducing equal pay legislation, and yes perhaps the media. Until then, mortgages were based on the man's income alone. Now, unless both husband and wife are working, there is no chance of getting a mortgage. That is an example of the utter stupidity of relativism.
QV

QV your posting is not correct. We bought our first house in 1970, before the legislation regarding equal pay. The Building societies then, took account of the husband's and wife's wages. A typical formula was:

Either 2.5 x main income

or

2 x main income plus 1 x secondary income.

The house was on a new estate of small homes, what we now call starter homes. Nearly all the women on that estate went out to work, that was their only chance of buying their own home. Our mortgage payment was £20 per week. My husband's weekly wage was £16.
Keep the Faith!

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Quicunque vult
Oct 1 2007, 09:49 PM
No - blame the feminist politicians of the 1970s and their gullible electorates for introducing equal pay legislation, and yes perhaps the media.

Please justify the payment of higher incomes to men, whether they were childless bachelors or family men, than to women, some of whom were sole bread winners. I take it you have heard of war widows, and of women whose husbands were killed in coal mines and building sites?

Letter of Pope John Paul II to Women

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4. And what shall we say of the obstacles which in so many parts of the world still keep women from being fully integrated into social, political and economic life? We need only think of how the gift of motherhood is often penalized rather than rewarded, even though humanity owes its very survival to this gift. Certainly, much remains to be done to prevent discrimination against those who have chosen to be wives and mothers. As far as personal rights are concerned, there is an urgent need to achieve real equality in every area: equal pay for equal work, protection for working mothers, fairness in career advancements, equality of spouses with regard to family rights and the recognition of everything that is part of the rights and duties of citizens in a democratic State.


Please tell me QV if there was any moral justification for my children having had less than others because the family breadwinner was a woman?
Keep the Faith!

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Emee
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Rose, thanks so much for finding this letter so quickly.

God Bless Pope John Paul II!
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