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| Lord Melvyn Bragg'sdocumentary; Muslim view of Jesus | |
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| Topic Started: Tuesday, 21. August 2007, 11:12 (201 Views) | |
| Deleted User | Tuesday, 21. August 2007, 11:12 Post #1 |
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It is not clear whether from this CNA article this programme was aired on Sunday, or will be aired this Sunday http://www.catholicnewsagency.com/new.php?n=10169 Anyone have any further information? KatyA |
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| Ned | Tuesday, 21. August 2007, 18:16 Post #2 |
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That Catholic News Agency report starts :
Yes, Jesus is the Son of God, and no doubt about it. But He is God, God the Son, co-eternal with the Father, born of the Father before time began. And incarnate of the Virgin Mary by the power of the Holy Spirit, He became man for our sake. Some sects, the Jehovah's Witnesses for example, do not believe in the three-personed God. They regard Our Lord not as God but as the Son of God. They complain if the media refers to Jesus as God. But the plain truth is that He is. I do think that in this situation CNA is being week, equivocating and misleading, in saying that Christians believe Jesus is the Son of God. Yes, we do - but more to the point, and this is what upsets some people, we know that He is God the Son. And we need to say it loud and proud ! I have e-mailed CNA. |
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| PJD | Tuesday, 21. August 2007, 18:55 Post #3 |
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I suppose the better expression to explain Jesus is that He was The Second Person of the Blessed Trinity. Then for a more theological expression - One Person, two natures. PJD |
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| PJD | Tuesday, 21. August 2007, 18:56 Post #4 |
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Second Person, Incarnate of Course. |
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| Ned | Tuesday, 21. August 2007, 19:13 Post #5 |
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He IS the Second Person of the Blessed Trinity. But, yes - that apart, your wording is far superior to mine. And Alas, my comment on the CNA site was rejected - with a message that I hadn't given the correct Security Code. I carefully tried again, but was rejected again. And I must go home now. |
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| PJD | Tuesday, 21. August 2007, 22:06 Post #6 |
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Yes Ned, bad slip on on my part, of course HE IS PJD |
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| saundthorp | Thursday, 23. August 2007, 08:26 Post #7 |
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The statement in the Catechism which says we, that is Catholics and Muslems, "...hold the faith of Abraham, and together with us they adore the one, merciful God, mankind's judge on the last day", makes me feel uncomfortable because of their rejection of the Trinity. In addition the Muslim's idea of God still seems to be rooted in the Old Testament concept of a vengeful God, who goes around destroying His enemies. In a nutshell, can we really say we worship the same God? |
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Truth is still the truth even if no one believes it. Error is still error even if everyone believes it. (Archbishop Fulton Sheen) | |
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| pattif | Thursday, 23. August 2007, 11:12 Post #8 |
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Yes, saundthorp, because Muslims worship the God of Abraham (cf. Gen 20:13, 18), as we do. True, their understanding of him is lacking; without the Trinitarian understanding of God as a community of love, overemphasis on God's vengeance is understandable. It is only through the experience of Our Lord and the Holy Spirit that Christians come to an appreciation of God's infinite capacity for love and forgiveness. Mind you, I sometimes think that we can err on the side of thinking that God's forgiveness is something to which we are automatically entitled. |
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| PJD | Thursday, 23. August 2007, 18:29 Post #9 |
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I think my theological question arises from: "hold the faith of Abraham"....? PJD |
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| pattif | Thursday, 23. August 2007, 20:00 Post #10 |
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Eh? :blink: |
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