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Pope Benedict Teaches; Holy Father's comments on the readings
Topic Started: Sunday, 19. August 2007, 19:42 (1,387 Views)
Deacon Robert	Monday, 8. October 2007, 19:45 Post #16
Posts: 824 Group: Members Member #15 Joined: September 26, 2006	No, the UK was not excluded, we should all have had the readings for the 27th Sunday in ordinary time. The readings for a particular Sunday always take precedence because It is on Sunday when we celebrate the Lord's resurrection. What the Pope did was give a topical sermon not based on the readings but directed to the spiritual good of the people of God. These types of semons are usually given when there is a need for consolation or direction.
	Dcn Robert


Joseph	Monday, 8. October 2007, 19:52 Post #17
Posts: 753 Group: Members Member #37 Joined: October 18, 2006	Deacon Robert Oct 8 2007, 08:45 PM No, the UK was not excluded... But when do we celebrate the World Day of the Rosary joining the "millions of people on five continents to pray the rosary in public places"?
	Joseph


KatyA	Monday, 8. October 2007, 20:19 Post #18
Administrator Posts: 5,407 Group: Admin Member #6 Joined: September 26, 2006	Here's the website for the organisers of the World Day of the Rosary http://www.churchforum.org/rosario/ingles/ Quote: We invite you to organize a Rosary Prayer Session in your community, whether it may be a massive event in a Church or a Stadium, or just your family and friends, joining in with many more Rosaries organized around the world on the same day, October 7th, with the same intentions, thus forming the Worldwide Rosary Day 2007. I haven't heard of any events organised locally but that doesn't necessarily mean there were none. I have the impression that the onus of organising these events falls on the laity. KatyA



Rose of York	Monday, 8. October 2007, 20:21 Post #19
Administrator Posts: 14,540 Group: Admin Member #2 Joined: September 25, 2006	Joseph Oct 8 2007, 08:52 PM Deacon Robert Oct 8 2007, 08:45 PM No, the UK was not excluded... But when do we celebrate the World Day of the Rosary joining the "millions of people on five continents to pray the rosary in public places"? I'm note sure when, Joseph but I can tell you where. Click please Here and here We do try!
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Deacon Robert	Monday, 8. October 2007, 20:22 Post #20
Posts: 824 Group: Members Member #15 Joined: September 26, 2006	Yesterday! Your Bishop or PP should have informed the people when and where public devotions were to take place or at least have asked that the Rosary be said privately. It is nothing to do with a fragmented church. It has more to do with someone not passing information to the faithful in a timely manner.
	Dcn Robert


Joseph	Monday, 8. October 2007, 20:52 Post #21
Posts: 753 Group: Members Member #37 Joined: October 18, 2006	Deacon Robert Oct 8 2007, 09:22 PM Yesterday! Your Bishop or PP should have informed the people when and where public devotions were to take place or at least have asked that the Rosary be said privately. It is nothing to do with a fragmented church. It has more to do with someone not passing information to the faithful in a timely manner. Did that happen to everyone else here in UK, only me I wonder? No mention of it in our church. Was it raised in everyone else's? I think we may be into semantics when we talk about a fragmented Church. The above is but one tiny example of the Church as seen from the Vatican being quite different from the one we (or at least I) experience from the pews - and that to me is fragmentation. There are many examples of this, and it really disturbs me. To the extent in fact I believe it to be one of the key issues negatively affecting our Church today.
	Joseph


Rose of York	Monday, 8. October 2007, 20:59 Post #22
Administrator Posts: 14,540 Group: Admin Member #2 Joined: September 25, 2006	Joseph Oct 8 2007, 09:52 PM I think we may be into semantics when we talk about a fragmented Church. The above is but one tiny example of the Church as seen from the Vatican being quite different from the one we (or at least I) experience from the pews - and that to me is fragmentation. There are many examples of this, and it really disturbs me. To the extent in fact I believe it to be one of the key issues negatively affecting our Church today. Joseph I would really appreciate it if you would post something about that in our section "Where Are they Now?" We are studying why people stop going to Mass. We lack leadership.
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Joseph	Tuesday, 9. October 2007, 20:37 Post #23
Posts: 753 Group: Members Member #37 Joined: October 18, 2006	Thanks Rose - that seems to have stopped the thread dead in its tracks :) Please feel free to copy it over, in full or in part (as you wish), to whatever thread you prefer. I'm afraid I just get lost in this forum, and as you are the expert I'm sure you can make such a move much better than I could. Meanwhile I would appreciate a response or two to the questions I raised above, since I don't think Deacon Robert's comments addressed them, did they?
	Joseph


Rose of York	Tuesday, 9. October 2007, 20:48 Post #24
Administrator Posts: 14,540 Group: Admin Member #2 Joined: September 25, 2006	Sorry, Joseph. I was not being critical, I just thought it was a good contribution, worth mentioning in Where Are They Now? Anyway, lets continue discussing it here.
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Rose of York	Tuesday, 9. October 2007, 20:56 Post #25
Administrator Posts: 14,540 Group: Admin Member #2 Joined: September 25, 2006	Joseph Oct 8 2007, 09:52 PM Deacon Robert Oct 8 2007, 09:22 PM Yesterday! Your Bishop or PP should have informed the people when and where public devotions were to take place or at least have asked that the Rosary be said privately. It is nothing to do with a fragmented church. It has more to do with someone not passing information to the faithful in a timely manner. Did that happen to everyone else here in UK, only me I wonder? No mention of it in our church. Was it raised in everyone else's? I think we may be into semantics when we talk about a fragmented Church. The above is but one tiny example of the Church as seen from the Vatican being quite different from the one we (or at least I) experience from the pews - and that to me is fragmentation. There are many examples of this, and it really disturbs me. To the extent in fact I believe it to be one of the key issues negatively affecting our Church today. I am inclined to agree with you, Joseph. The Vatican announced world events, and calls for prayer for specific reasons on set dates. One parish is told, the parish next door hears nothing. If it were not for Catholic forums I would not have heard about the Year of the Eucharist. The Church is universal. We need to strengthen the unity of Catholics world wide, not fragment it. Is it not the same with national days? One parish highlights CAFOD Family Fast Day. Another parish ignores it. When there is a change of parish priest, the accent in a parish changes. Our parish put a heavy slant on Churches Together, but the priest gave up having a wreath laid at the town war memorial on Remembrance Day, on behalf of Catholics living in the town. The new priest had little or no interest in Churches together, but had a wreath laid in one town, and was personally present, with other local clergy, in another town in his parish. I never heard or read about World Youth Day in my parish. All this weakens the sense of unity within the Deanery, Diocese, and worldwide Church.
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Joseph	Tuesday, 9. October 2007, 21:37 Post #26
Posts: 753 Group: Members Member #37 Joined: October 18, 2006	Exactly - the two international events you mention struck home to me too. The Year of the Eucharist was so dear to pope John Paul II's heart, and he did so much to promote it, but not a mention in our parish. Similarly for The World Youth Day... The Millenium with its three-year build-up by the Vatican, and for which the CTS produced a Special Millenium Edition of the Penny Catechism - approved by the Archbishops and Bishops of England and Wales, and directed to be used in all their dioceses. What happened? Zero, zilch, as far as I could see. No mention whatsoever locally. At only �1.50 CTS could have hoped the Special Edition Catechism would have flooded the country and be made available in all our schools (dare they?), but how many pew dwellers were even made aware of it? Such instances really do convince me that very little effort is made by our heirarchy to bring us all together as the one Holy and Catholic and Apostolic Church we proudly proclaim membership of.
	Joseph


KatyA	Wednesday, 10. October 2007, 22:12 Post #27
Administrator Posts: 5,407 Group: Admin Member #6 Joined: September 26, 2006	Pope Benedict continued his Wednesday Audience catechesis on the Early Church Fathers, today commenting on St. Hilary of Poitiers Quote: The Holy Father explained how St. Hilary presents "precise rules" for a correct reading of the Gospel when he indicates how "some pages of Scripture speak of Jesus as God, others underline His humanity, others still ... His pre-existence at the side of the Father ... His descent to death ... His resurrection." "Firm in his opposition to radical Arians, Hilary showed a more conciliatory spirit towards to those who were prepared to confess that the Son was like to the Father in essence, always seeking to lead them to a complete faith: ... not just likeness but equality ... in divinity." The beauty of Hilary�s words and of his consciousness of the seriousness and grace of his baptism lead him to pray: �Grant, O Lord, that I may remain faithful to what I have professed in the symbol of my regeneration, when I was baptized in the Father, in the Son, and in the Holy Spirit. May I adore you, our Father, and together with you your Son; may I merit your Holy Spirit, which proceeds from you through your only Son�Amen(De Trinitate 12,57). The Holy Father concluded his homily with these words. http://www.catholicnewsagency.com/new.php?n=10611



KatyA	Monday, 15. October 2007, 22:44 Post #28
Administrator Posts: 5,407 Group: Admin Member #6 Joined: September 26, 2006	Pope Benedict's Angelus address on 14 October. We are truly blessed to have such a gifted teacher. VATICAN CITY, OCT 14, 2007 (VIS) - Today at midday, Benedict XVI appeared at the window of his study to pray the Angelus with thousands of pilgrims gathered below in St. Peter's Square. The Pope commented on today's Gospel reading of the cleansing of ten lepers, of whom just one, a Samaritan, returned to thank Jesus for having cured him. "Complete and radical healing is 'salvation'," said the Holy Father. "Everyday language itself, by distinguishing between 'health' and 'salvation,' helps us to understand that salvation is much more than health: it is, in fact, new, full and definitive life. Furthermore, here, as in other circumstances, Jesus uses the expression: 'your faith has made you well.' "It is faith that saves man," he added, "re-establishing him in his profound relationship with God, with himself and with others; and faith is expressed through gratitude. People who, like the healed Samaritan, know how to give thanks, show that they do not consider everything their due, but as a gift which, even when it reaches them through man or through nature, comes in the final instance from God." Benedict XVI went on: "The leprosy that truly defaces mankind and society is sin; it is pride and egoism that generate indifference, hatred and violence in the human soul. This leprosy of the spirit which disfigures the face of humanity can only be healed by God, Who is Love. By opening their hearts to God, people who convert are internally healed from evil." The Holy Father then went on to recall the apparitions of the Virgin Mary from May 13 to October 13, 1917 in Fatima, Portugal, where Cardinal Secretary of State Tarcisio Bertone S.D.B. today presided at a celebration in the Pope's name marking that anniversary. "We ask the Virgin Mary," said Benedict XVI, "that all Christians may receive the gift of true conversion, so as to announce and bear witness coherently and faithfully to the perennial evangelical message, which shows humanity the path of authentic peace." VIS Press Release A fuller report can be found on ZENIT



PJD	Tuesday, 16. October 2007, 17:45 Post #29
Posts: 2,423 Group: Members Member #11 Joined: September 26, 2006	Thanks for that reminder Katy. I must enter Zenit and download it. You have reminded me to go into Zenit more often - I used to regularly. But then my dear, we are so busy on here (laugh). PJD



KatyA	Thursday, 18. October 2007, 13:32 Post #30
Administrator Posts: 5,407 Group: Admin Member #6 Joined: September 26, 2006	Yesterday's Angelus address on St. Eusebius demonstrates that things don't seem to have changed much since his time Quote: "For the emperor," said the Pontiff, "the simpler Arian faith was more useful politically as an ideology of the empire. For him the truth didn't count, only the political opportunity: He wanted to use religion as a tie to unite the empire." But St. Eusebius, together with the other great bishops of the time, "resisted, defending the truth over and against political domination," said Benedict XVI. The life of St. Eusebius, said the Pope, teaches the Church even today the need "to protect the hierarchy of just values, without bending to the trend of the moment, or to the unjust demands of political power." The Pontiff continued: "The authentic hierarchy of values, Eusebius' whole life seems to tell us, does not come from the emperors of yesterday or today, but from Jesus Christ, the perfect man, equal to the Father in divinity, but at the same time a man like us. http://zenit.org/article-20770?l=english



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