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Home Schooling
Topic Started: Sunday, 12. August 2007, 14:19 (1,311 Views)
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On the miscellanous thread Clare mentioned home schooling. Is it worthy of a full discussion?

Is home schooling a helpful in passing on Catholic teaching?
Is it socially beneficial or not?
Is it educationally beneficial or not?
Is it good for the parent?


Does the Catholic Church in England and Wales, or in Scotland or Ireland give any support to home-school parents?
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'150,000 children' educated at home
Last updated at 18:32pm on 23rd February 2007

The number of parents choosing to teach their children at home is rapidly increasing

Record numbers of parents are choosing to teach their children at home amid mounting disillusion with state schools, the Government's own research revealed yesterday.

As many as 150,000 youngsters have been withdrawn from the school system because of "dissatisfaction" with standards of discipline and the quality of state education.

Another reason is graphic sex education lessons in schools.

The study, commissioned by the Department for Education, suggests the numbers of home-schooled children have almost tripled since 1999 despite the boasts of ministers that state schools have improved.

The DfES study, conducted by independent analysts York Consulting, found that local councils have records of some 16,000 homeschooled children – nearly three times as much as eight years ago.

However this figure is likely to underestimate the true scale of the trend since many parents choose not to register as home educators with their local authority.
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Home School Legal Defense Association: UK page

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Compulsory Attendance Ages: 5-16

Legal Status: Homeschooling is legal in England and Wales under the 1944 Education Act, which was consolidated in 1996. Section 7, Education Act 1996 states, "…[E]fficient full-time education, suitable to his age, ability and aptitude and to any special education needs he may have, either by regular attendance at school or otherwise." Under the "or otherwise" phrase in the law, families can legally homeschool.
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BBC

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Going to school 'not compulsory' 

Home education frees children from the national curriculum and tests
Councils in England are being reminded that parents have the right to educate their children at home if they wish.


Proposed Department for Education and Skills guidelines on "elective home education" stress that education is compulsory but schooling is not.
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Do the Education authorities check on the standard of education achieved by home-schooled children?

The disadvantage I see is that the child may lack the opportunity of socialising with peers. However if such socialising would involve mixing with knife-carrying peers, there is a distinct advantage to keeping the child out of school.
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Aug 12 2007, 04:38 PM
Do the Education authorities check on the standard of education achieved by home-schooled children?

Check out the BBC link in my earlier post, Rose (I was being good, not breaching copyright!)

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With increasing Government interference I think the clergy are looking at this as a possible move for many in the future.

But from what I can gather, at the moment that is only a sentiment. Of course it may happen in reality quicker than one thinks.

Money of course is the great difficulty.

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nelly k

A few of my friends Homeschool, its not for me and my Husband for lots of reasons. It would have been very difficult with my older Daughter because of her Dyslexia, which many of you would have gathered by now is a problem for me, although we have both done remarkably well considering, mines has never been picked up, but Iam afraid that was to do with education at the time. Whereas with my oldest the state sector has been realy good.

The friends chose Homeschooling primarily on the grounds of Faith and Morals. A great effort was made to have them involved in Clubs of all sorts so as to avoid the social isolation issues and I think to enable them to cope in Adult life with a variety of challenges. I think it is pretty new teritory so in its infancy.Some have done it part and part using either the State or Private for small blocks.

I think it is a case of each to his own, Homeschooling is a huge task lots of commitement, My 2 mix with all sorts its up to me to be informed about youth culture and trends in secular society and prepare them for this, so far they have done very well. I am a realy proud Mum.
nelly

PS I forgot to add the Schools and the Teachers my Children have had are terrific, they are due more than a fair degree of credit for the work they have done, the schools being Catholic I have no doubt make a diffrence.
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Clare
Aug 12 2007, 04:39 PM
Rose of York
Aug 12 2007, 04:38 PM
Do the Education authorities check on the standard of education achieved by home-schooled children?

Check out the BBC link in my earlier post, Rose (I was being good, not breaching copyright!)

BBC commenting on Department of Skills and Education Guidelines
 
What parents must provide is "efficient full-time education" suitable to their children's age, ability and aptitude and any special educational needs.


SOME REASONS PEOPLE CHOOSE HOME EDUCATION
Distance or access to school
Religious, cultural or philosophical beliefs
Dissatisfaction with the system
Bullying
Short-term particular reason
Child's unwillingness or inability to go to school
Special educational needs
Parents' desire for closer relationship with children

Most do this by sending their children to school, but some prefer home education.

But it says they have "no statutory duties in relation to monitoring the quality of home education on a routine basis".

It really is so heart-warming to families to have their choices recognised in this way
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They could intervene only if they have "good reason" - it stresses - to believe parents were not providing a suitable education.

They could ask parents to provide information. Parents "are under no duty to comply" though it would be "sensible" to do so.

Serving a school attendance order should be "a last resort".


Gypsies have always home-schooled. In the forties I knew of a bargee whose wife had died in childbirth. He took the job so he could care for the baby, and later educate her, as the horse took the coal-carrying barge along a canal. My friend who is a qualified teacher home-schooled her son, who is autistic. He was bullied at school, despite being a very quiet boy. Now that he has grown up he is well on the way to gaining an Open University degree.

With home schooling there is no danger of the school nurse giving so called "sexual health" guidance.
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Aug 12 2007, 05:48 PM
With increasing Government interference I think the clergy are looking at this as a possible move for many in the future.

But from what I can gather, at the moment that is only a sentiment. Of course it may happen in reality quicker than one thinks.

Money of course is the great difficulty.

PJD

Judging by the accounts of the Bishops Conference, money is not a problem. It could be the usual case of prioritising, giving priority to holding seminars. :D I would happily contribute to an appeal to help hard up parents buy the books and equipment, especially if there was moral or physical danger in local schools. However, if there is a good school available, why not let the child attend?
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nelly k

Rose , I think it is the large comprehensives that are the problem... also there are a lot of duff subjects that are imposed, one being PSE , physical and social developement, I am not sure what the equivilant would be in England and Wales.

It is realy hard for Teachers to do anything other than work with these subjects. If you get a good Teacher its usually fine,there is also a lot of over education the ciriculum is huge.

PE is cumpulsory agian the thinking is that there is a lack of physical activity undertaken by children so they go for all doing it.

For me my 2 will have to go out into the world and work with people they have no chioce about if they do go to college or Uni I want them well able to cope.

The drugs education I have felt positive about. But that is because I meet a lot of drug users who a fell into this,
The sex education hmm well I belive Ive balanced this out , being at Catholic Schools has helped as I would say the programes used have been family orientated and when doing babtisim at high school it was done from conception which was very clever.
I think the media of all sorts is probably the real evil thsi is then carried into schools and they have to deal with it. To be honest its not the children or the young people its the Parents.
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I would say that where there is a well-run Catholic School, Catholic Children should attend it. Naturally distance, some form of disability and one or two other things may legitimately discourage it.
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nelly k
Aug 12 2007, 07:19 PM
I am a realy proud Mum.
nelly

PS I forgot to add the Schools and the Teachers my Children have had are terrific, they are due more than a fair degree of credit for the work they have done, the schools being Catholic I have no doubt make a diffrence.

You sound like a really good mum Nelly.....I hope your children are just as proud of you.
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I have known a few "home schooled" kids in my time, and I have to say most of them were, if one was being kind, quaint, and if one was being more honest, just plain odd.

There is a lot to be said for learning how to muck in with your peers - and I don't mean smoking pot behind the bike sheds - and keeping children attached to mum's apron strings isn't necessarily a good thing. I do appreciate that as parents we want to keep our children from perceived harm - but unless the local school really is a sink establishment I think on the whole youngsters ought to be allowed to mix with their peers and learn to deal with real life.
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Aug 13 2007, 08:00 AM
I think on the whole youngsters ought to be allowed to mix with their peers and learn to deal with real life.

Which is why I'd like to be in an area where there are other young families.

If I did go the "homeschooling" route, I'd also consider enrolling my children in things like dance and music lessons.

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Hi, this is my first post.
I have been home schooling 2 of my children for over 2yrs now. I wish I had home schooled earlier and included the oldest-but hey, hindisght is always 20/20.

My 4yr old starts school in Sept and I hope I am doing what is best for him. I'll keep a close eye on things.
While I may send the younger ones to primary school as things stand no child of mine will attend secondary school unless something drastic changes in the system.

I recently joined Education Otherwise.

If you want to ask me questions about home ed. feel free and I'll do my best to answer them :)
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Shell
Aug 13 2007, 07:40 PM
While I may send the younger ones to primary school as things stand no child of mine will attend secondary school unless something drastic changes in the system.

Hi Shell,

I was thinking of doing the opposite!

Knowing that I reckon I could just about teach primary school level things, I'm not really upto teaching secondary level!

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