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| Topic Started: Sunday, 27. May 2007, 22:32 (630 Views) | |
| Timothy | Sunday, 27. May 2007, 22:32 Post #1 |
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BBC - Pope to meet McCann family[/b] I am glad to see Cardinal Murphy O'Connor doing this for the family, I hope they find strength from the visit to Rome. |
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"An adult faith does not follow the waves of fashion and the latest novelty." "Having a clear faith, according to the credo of the church, is often labelled as fundamentalism." Pope Benedict XVI | |
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| Timothy | Wednesday, 30. May 2007, 12:16 Post #2 |
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| Em. | Wednesday, 30. May 2007, 14:24 Post #3 |
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What is the reason behind it? Isn't it better if they stayed at home working like mad to spend the money searching for the girl? The Pope can do nothing and he could have sent them a letter. I really cannot get my head round the reason for it. There is a family who is propably not a CXatholic (I don't know) and there are Catholic out there crying for a priests visit. HJe could have done better to guarantee them that visit. |
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| Timothy | Wednesday, 30. May 2007, 16:41 Post #4 |
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Em, I think you have been extremely harsh and critical;
One reason was to continue to raise awareness of their child's abduction, by meeting the Pope, they gained media attention which was one way of keeping a high profile.
He can pray.
They are Catholic, and have gone to mass daily since the abduction.
I can't see how that has anything to do with it, and besides they visited the Priest (Pope) and not the other way round. |
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| Deleted User | Wednesday, 30. May 2007, 20:19 Post #5 |
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I see that the English Churchman, that bastion of C of E extreme evangelicals, has printed an article which says that the family will receive no comfort until it converts from Romanism. Much more in similar vein. And yet sometimes, even on this Forum , Catholics seem happy to ally themselves with these people on "family" issues. John |
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| Em. | Wednesday, 30. May 2007, 20:33 Post #6 |
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Timothy, Sadly this is the first time that I saw your answer. I did not get a notidfication of your reply. I did not know that they are Catholics, and even if I knew my opinion would not have changed. I am not being harsh at all, is that what you call a person who tells what he feels? Continue to raise awareness you say? The Pope can pray? He could do that without meeting them can't he? You say they went to Mass daily since the problem arose, well, did they not go before? Do they go because of this incident? And regarding your last reply, my answer is that it has to do with what I stated, I might be old but net crazy yet, there are sick people that need the comfort of a priest and they have to do without him. I couid say a lot more but I leave it at that. My question is why did they not guard her ALL the time I used to. |
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| Rose of York | Wednesday, 30. May 2007, 20:38 Post #7 |
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This is a slight digression, but I feel the C of E needs to be defended. English Churchman Newspaper has a button marked History Click that and you get "We have been publishing our newspaper in the UK for hundreds of years in one form or another. The current editor, Rev Peter Ratcliff, is a minister in the Church of England (Continuing) in London. " That takes you to another link to Church of England (Continuing) which states "Welcome to the home page of the Church of England (Continuing) We are a group of Anglican congregations outside the Church of England" So, it appears that the Church of England has no responsibility for that paper. Church of England (Continuing) |
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| Rose of York | Wednesday, 30. May 2007, 20:44 Post #8 |
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This is no time for condemnation, whatever our personal views on the matter. The parents, grandparents, two little ones, possibly aunts and uncles are suffering. Worse, the little girl may be suffering and in what way we do not know. No amount of criticism from any of us will help find this child. God sees and understands all. |
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| Em. | Wednesday, 30. May 2007, 20:57 Post #9 |
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Rose You want me to be honest don't you? If I say one thing to please everyone and in my heart I feel what I have written, G-d will be my witness and I am not going to cheat on Him. Yes, of course, as a father and grand fater I do indeed sympathise with them, but I have to be honesty withmyself even if other people disagree with me. |
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| Deleted User | Wednesday, 30. May 2007, 22:47 Post #10 |
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Rose I agree that the Church of England has no responsibility for the English Churchman and nor should that great Church be accused of that. it is true that the people behind the Churchman are adherents to Anglicanism. John |
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| Timothy | Thursday, 31. May 2007, 00:11 Post #11 |
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It was up to the family, and they felt it would help, and therefore I don't see why anyone should judge them, meeting the Pope is a very important event for anyone, and they wanted that and I can fully understand that.
Most Catholics don't go to mass daily, but weekly, they went to mass daily considering the situation they were in, the fact they are on holiday, that their daughter has been abducted and that they are Catholic. Most working people don't have the time to go to mass daily as the mass time is usually in the mornings.
I'm sure there are, however this has nothing to do with the McCanns meeting the Pope at all.
The greater question is why someone abducted her. It's easy to blame people now, but there is no point they are looking for help not criticism. |
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| Emee | Thursday, 31. May 2007, 00:19 Post #12 |
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As I have mentioned elsewhere: The McCanns have spoken about the guilt they feel about that evening. They have said it will never leave them and that they will have to live with it for the rest of their lives. Surely that is punishment enough? They are aware they made a tragic mistake. To be possibly reminded of it, or their relatives be reminded of it, on this, a freely-accessible Catholic site, to my mind, will not help matters. They are suffering more than most of us could ever possibly imagine. I pray to God every day that this child is soon found and safely reunited with her parents. I truly believe this is possible. It seems there was a siting of her with a man in Marrakesh, so I trust to God that she is still alive and unharmed. |
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| Rose of York | Thursday, 31. May 2007, 00:40 Post #13 |
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It saddens me to read condemnation of the parents of Madeline MacCann. What has happened happened. It cannot be undone, and nothing is gained by openly condemning the couple, particularly on a Catholic, indeed any Christian forum that can be viewed by any casual browser. It could be that the publicity will raise awareness of the difficulties faced by many other parents frantic with worry about missing children. Police forces in many countries might be shamed into making more effort when they receive reports of child abduction. I admit shamefully to have wondered why so much publicity for Madeline and so little for some others. A friend put me right, said it is good that Mr and Mrs McCann are in a position, and have the bravery, to make a big fuss and get as much publicity as possible in the hope of finding her daughter. Whatever our own individual situations, upsets, disappointments, rejection and anger, s, we can all do something postive, ie pray for all missing children, and all families suffering resultant distress, and carefully observe any child we see who resembles Madeline. I, like Em, know what is is like to llack support in bad times, but I see no point in connecting that with this tragic affair. |
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| Deleted User | Thursday, 31. May 2007, 00:47 Post #14 |
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Rose I entirely agree. This must be every parents nightmare and the McCanns deserve all the sympathy and support they are getting. Like Emee, I pray every day that the little one will be found safe and reunited with her parents - I'm sure we all do. KatyA |
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| Alan | Thursday, 31. May 2007, 02:28 Post #15 |
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It is so easy to be critical of parents. No parent is in a position to observe children 24 hours a day 7 days each week for fifty two weeks of the year. There was a dreadful case in the north of England last year when a child was taken from her bath when the child's mother went to get something from the kitchen. Surely that was not neglect? I remember well in my own case leaving my pre school children in a holiday camp chalet being observed only by "the Chalet Patrol" who only reported "baby crying". They did not ensure the children were in bed. Yes and we were quite a distance away. How many thousands of other parents did exactly the same as us. Em I am delighted that you were able to come to England from your homeland with sufficient funds to enable you to watch your family at all times and without a need to work. My thoughts and Prayers are with the McCann family and all those who have lost children. |
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