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| Topic Started: Sunday, 6. May 2007, 22:53 (1,704 Views) | |
| PJD | Tuesday, 22. May 2007, 20:03 Post #31 |
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Those things are what we are given - what we are so to speak. As James said it is what we do that counts. PJD |
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| jimc1 | Tuesday, 22. May 2007, 22:30 Post #32 |
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It is what we do that counts is what you said PJD....I explained on a previous thread the majors of what we do not do but claim we do....lets start with first thing in the morning and end with last thing at night....when I woke up this morning means you did not-you were not asleep and said to yourself "I am going to wake up now-no you were awakened or left to you you might still be asleep or at night if you tried to sleep you would be trying all night and on giving up trying you would fall asleep-btw you do not breathe or think either-these are just a few of the majors in your life that you do not do etc-jimc |
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| James | Wednesday, 23. May 2007, 12:07 Post #33 |
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Jimc You are not arguing against us my friend. We have also inferred that there is a vast number of things in individual lives where people have no freedom of choice by nature or circumstance. I will define free will as "freedom of choice in relation to maybe millions of things throughout a lifetime" I don't think it was ever intended that the use of the word "free will" applied in all circumstances of life. Even in cases where people are addicted it can be argued that their free will between good and bad choices is impaired and that is also taken into account. But then only God knows the heart of each one and when we are in a position to choose between - say good and evils acts- then HE and not us will know if this was a real act of free will. That said - free will to choose what we are capable of choosing is still part of our soul's function. |
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| jimc1 | Wednesday, 23. May 2007, 16:28 Post #34 |
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Your last three paragraphs are close to the gist of the matter for two men looked out of prison bars but one saw muck and the other stars-jimc1 |
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| James | Wednesday, 23. May 2007, 17:09 Post #35 |
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Revised post. I was in a pub yesterday and listened to a group in a semi- philosophical talk but one man intrigued me and I could not work him out. He spoke a lot and described man as a "talking animal" only, but when anybody tried to speak to him he kept putting his fingers in his ears and repeating very loudly " I dont want to hear " and that is as true as I am writing this. What would you have made of that lot if you were with me for a pint Jimc.? I was intriqued.!!!! |
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| jimc1 | Wednesday, 23. May 2007, 18:24 Post #36 |
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Strangely I have a preference for the written word over the spoken-jimc |
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| James | Wednesday, 23. May 2007, 22:59 Post #37 |
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Now now Jim. Christ and his parables God and his people - the spoken word !! |
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| jimc1 | Wednesday, 23. May 2007, 23:39 Post #38 |
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No the written word before it is spoken by Priest or prelate-even Christ said when tempted by the Devil "it is written,it is written,it is written-jimc |
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| James | Thursday, 24. May 2007, 10:53 Post #39 |
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Anyway Jimc to get back to free will. You did make a very important choice when you chose the written over the spoken because you exercised free will in no minor way. This is an intellectual choice made with the "talents " given to you although they may not have been of your choosing. You were given an intellect to understand, you took time to learn to read and write a language although, agree again, you might have been " dragged to the classroom to learn" but you did it along with, no doubt, other sciences. And with those you choose to make use of those talents in a very positive way for the good of yourslf and - here alone -by postings whuch involve other people. I can only repeat that these choices are very major, despite what you may think of them yourself, in very important aspects of your life and to others as well. You are also a man who questions about a lot of important things (by your postings) although you may not always find answers where you expect. This is also a very major use of the exercise of choice in anyones life. What was it Jesus said of the man who made good use of the talents and chose not to hide them under a bush? |
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| jimc1 | Thursday, 24. May 2007, 16:19 Post #40 |
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the parable of the talents should be interpreted thus-we have no choice in the talents we have or have not -for to them that have it shall be given even more and to them that have not it shall be taken away even that which they have not viz forget about ourselves and allow God to use us and our God given talents-no picking or choosing justl allowing-jimc |
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| Deleted User | Thursday, 24. May 2007, 16:25 Post #41 |
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Congratulations jimc. That was the 11000th posting on the forum KatyA |
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| jimc1 | Thursday, 24. May 2007, 17:06 Post #42 |
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Thank you KatyA.....only the highly talented can achieve something like this-jimc |
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| James | Thursday, 24. May 2007, 18:27 Post #43 |
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Sorry Jimc. I just can't seem to get on your wavelength. No doubt you are right but it's not my path. I have been led - if that is the word you think we should use - mainly among non catholics and apart from this forum have no other catholic communications much. Although I do get into many conversations with other people the whole approach , I have learned, is different. No doubt, you and I are saying the same thing in the end but from different directions. |
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| James | Thursday, 24. May 2007, 19:11 Post #44 |
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Now now Jimc Your last posting to KatyA. What was it you said - allow God, no picking and choosing.!!! Surely not a kink of pride in the holy armour for a small token.!! Is it not God who led you to this - no picking or choosing . Give God the credit - you just allowed it to happen. |
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| jimc1 | Thursday, 24. May 2007, 21:10 Post #45 |
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Now,now James-I said nothing about this being possible for you or remotely possible for me in fact quite the opposite as previously stated see Rmns.7:14-24-jimc |
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