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The Priest-most Important Person In The Parish?; Two tier laity?
Topic Started: Wednesday, 11. October 2006, 23:24 (1,519 Views)
medjugorje vin

The priest is the MOST important person in the Parish.No priest...

No Weddings

No Baptism's

No Communion

No Confirmation

No Consecration

No Confession

No Last Rites

No Funeral

No Mass

No Christmas Service

No Easter Service

No Church

When a priest blesses you it is Jesus Himself who is blessing you,when a priest absolves you it is Jesus Himself who is absolving you,when a priest consecrates the Mass it is Jesus Himself who is consecrating the Mass.Every time a priest carries out a Sacramental duty it is Jesus who is carrying it out through the priest.

If you truly knew what was being achieved during the Sacraments we would be doing them perpetually.

A Parish without a priest is a most terrible thought. :(

Praised be Jesus and Mary ALWAYS

Medjugorje Vin

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Eve
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medjugorje vin
May 16 2007, 03:47 PM


A Parish without a priest is a most terrible thought. :(

Praised be Jesus and Mary ALWAYS

Medjugorje Vin

There is such a parish.

Diocese of Plymouth, Isles of Scilly Page

American forum members may be interested to know, The Isles of Scilly is a cluster of populated off shore Islands in The Atlantic, about 50 miles west of the South Western coat of England. They are served by a priest on the mainland but they have no guarantee of Sunday Mass.
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Diocese of Plymouth Website
 
sles of Scilly: Our Lady Star of the Sea

Address: Our Lady, Star of the Sea, The Strand, Isles of Scilly
Telephone: (01720) 422356

Served from The Immaculate Conception of Our Lady, Penzance
Service Times:

Service times depend on holiday priests - see Church notice board.
Other Information:

The church is keen to emphasise that free accommodation is available for visiting priests (on holiday).


There was something on our old forum about this. The Isles of Scilly have one, or perhaps two, Permanent Deacons. They can conduct weddings (without Nuptial Mass) and funeral services (without Requiem Mass). I think they conduct baptisms. I wonder if the priest from Penzance goes out by boat or helicopter for such occasions? All I know is, if there is no priest on holiday in the Scillies the Catholics have no Mass, and I imagine no Confessions.
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Lumen Gentium, paragraph 10

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Though they differ from one another in essence and not only in degree, the common priesthood of the faithful and the ministerial or hierarchical priesthood are nonetheless interrelated: each of them in its own special way is a participation in the one priesthood of Christ.(2*) The ministerial priest, by the sacred power he enjoys, teaches and rules the priestly people; acting in the person of Christ, he makes present the eucharistic sacrifice, and offers it to God in the name of all the people. But the faithful, in virtue of their royal priesthood, join in the offering of the Eucharist.(3*) They likewise exercise that priesthood in receiving the sacraments, in prayer and thanksgiving, in the witness of a holy life, and by self-denial and active charity.

Keep the Faith!

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PJD


That about sums it up Rose.

? leaving laity v. laity perhaps.

PJD
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In our parish we have the sandwich system.

The filling (She Who Must be Obeyed) tells the top slice (the priest) ane the bottom slice (folks like me) what to do, in matters liturgical and secular.

The top slice takes no notice. The bottom slice is divided into two segments. One segment shows due deference to the filling, the other segment is tolerantly deaf.
Keep the Faith!

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PJD

So there are two deaf segments and two ?what segments.

PJD
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Rose of York
May 17 2007, 08:34 PM
The bottom slice is divided into two segments. One segment shows due deference to the filling, the other segment is tolerantly deaf.

The bottom slice, the laity, consists of:


Segment A. Those who obey the filling (She Who Must be Obeyed)

and

Segment B. Those who pretend to be deaf because we take no notice of the filling (She Who Must be Obeyed). We acknowledge the precedence to which the top slice (our parish priest) is entitled.

So there.


Keep the Faith!

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In the Middlesbrough Diocese there are parishes which are still "independent" from each other administratively but have to share one or more priests. I don't know any details of lay parish aministrators.
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Yesterday Benedict XVI met with Italian clergy in the church of St. Justina, Martyr, in Auronzo, near Lorenzago di Cadore . The meeting covered varied subjects considered by the Holy Father on other occasions in his talks and documents.

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The Holy See Press Office Director went on to say that Benedict XVI had encouraged the priests to live "with their feet on the ground and their eyes on heaven" and had affirmed that "the essence of Christianity cannot be considered just as a collection of dogmas." The Pope also highlighted how "the best way to announce God's message is to live a life of love," he said.


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I really liked the quote that Priests should live with their feet on earth and their eyes on heaven, but then. not only Priests should follow that maxim.

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The essence of things here Katy is the seeking of humility

PJD
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I took it to be another way of saying we are in this world, but not of it - we should always have our eyes on heaven
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PJD

I misled you a little I think in my reply Katy.

My point was directed entirely to the topic title especially "most important person".

PJD
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Sorry PJD - I did misunderstand you.
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KatyA
May 15 2007, 09:54 PM


The following extracts from the Code of Canon Law would indicate otherwise,starting with the definition of "parish"

Can. 515 §1. A parish is a certain community of the Christian faithful stably constituted in a particular church, whose pastoral care is entrusted to a pastor (parochus) as its proper pastor (pastor) under the authority of the diocesan bishop.

§2. When certain communities cannot be erected as parishes or quasi-parishes, the diocesan bishop is to provide for their pastoral care in another way.

Can. 517 §1. When circumstances require it, the pastoral care of a parish or of different parishes together can be entrusted to several priests in solidum, with the requirement, however, that in exercising pastoral care one of them must be the moderator, namely, the one who is to direct the joint action and to answer for it to the bishop

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About twenty years ago I spent a short time in a very rural part of Kerry where, because of depopulation, and a shortage of priests, several parishes had been combined into one. The local church, which was a substantial one, was a chapel-of-ease. There was only one Mass a week, on the Sunday.

The Parish Church, with the PP and two curates, was in a small market-town two or three miles away.

The arrangement seemed to work very well. I don't know why we cannot have the same arrangements in our larger English cities where parish churches are sometimes in an easy walking distance of one or two others.

Priests are too valuable to be tied down in the smaller urban parishes
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I would have thought that every person in the parish is equally important in the eyes of God. Other than that, the little old lady fingering her beads and talking to Jesus on the back row.
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