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The Priest-most Important Person In The Parish?; Two tier laity?
Topic Started: Wednesday, 11. October 2006, 23:24 (1,521 Views)
denis

I for one. like the first name terms as this is given to us in Baptism. The surname just tells us which clan this person is from. Reading scriptures and the bible and the lives of the saints we rarely come across surnames. If when speaking to a priest we address him as FR Bill, Joe or Harry or whatever hie christian name is we are showing our respect by calling him FR.
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Karin
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I call our pastor Father Larry. That's what he calls himself - signs the church bulletin that way. Now, Msgr. McGarrty has earned his title and I simply call him Monsenior. Few people even know he has that title. But he's also a professor at our local Catholic college, so this I know!
Karin

Hvaljen Isus i Marija. Kraljica Mira, moli za nas.
"Praised be Jesus and Mary. Queen of Peace, Pray for Us."

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Eve
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I have just merged two old threads to form this one.

We have had new members since this discussion. Would they like to comment on the relationship between clergy and parishioners?
Howdy Folks. Has anybody seen my husband lately?
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Joseph

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We have had new members since this discussion. Would they like to comment on the relationship between clergy and parishioners?

What relationship is that then? :)
Joseph
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Rose of York
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Joseph
Apr 27 2007, 11:52 PM
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We have had new members since this discussion. Would they like to comment on the relationship between clergy and parishioners?

What relationship is that then? :)

In my parish a group of women think they wear the trousers.

Keep the Faith!

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Alan
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Rose of York
Apr 27 2007, 10:58 PM

In my parish a group of women think they wear the trousers.

I believe every parish has them.

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Joseph

Rose of York
Apr 27 2007, 11:58 PM

In my parish a group of women think they wear the trousers.

In my parish a group of women DO wear the trousers. :(
Joseph
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Derekap
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Whilst I don't condemn the address of clergy by their Christian Names instead of their surnames, being of the ancient school I don't take lightly to it. This is also in this secular world. I think I would have respect for a manager who called himself Mr Smith rather than Bill. I don't wish to go back to days when many people feared their priests but I do wonder sometimes whether Fr Bill or Fr Smith commands a little more respect.

When I retired I was (just) still Mr......... and I always addressed and referred to my seniors as Mr......... . This did not mean I was unfriendly.
Derekap
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newminster
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Our current PP is Father John. Our last PP was Father John. Our next-door parish priest is Father John.
Need I say more?
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PJD


I agree; there is something rather distasteful in calling any priest by his Christian name.

PJD
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Joseph

Does the insistance on the use of their Christian names by priests indicate that they are of the 'liberal' fold?

Most of the ones I know seem to be.
Joseph
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Rose of York
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I have a strange opinion, with which some people disagree, that if one person in the parish is the most important, it is the parish priest. Without him there is no parish. Whatever happens he is the one who answers to his bishop and in the case of civil law, to Government agencies. Therefore, we need to bear in mind, his position must be respected. It helps if he is the kind of man who is easy to respect.
Keep the Faith!

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Gerard

Rose of York
May 14 2007, 09:52 PM
I have a strange opinion, with which some people disagree, that if one person in the parish is the most important, it is the parish priest.


Would that be on a worldly level or a spiritual level ?

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Without him there is no parish.


Now that I will disagree with. It is certainly possible to have a parish without a parish priest. We have examples even in this country.

Gerry
"The institutional and charismatic aspects are quasi coessential to the Church's constitution" (Pope John Paul II, 1998).
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Rose of York
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May 15 2007, 10:52 AM
Now that I will disagree with. It is certainly possible to have a parish without a parish priest. We have examples even in this country.

Gerry

Gerry can you name a parish in The United Kingdom that does not have a parish priest?

My church was built many years ago. It has never had a resident priest. It has always had a parish priest.

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May 15 2007, 10:52 AM
Rose of York
May 14 2007, 09:52 PM
I have a strange opinion, with which some people disagree, that if one person in the parish is the most important, it is the parish priest.


Would that be on a worldly level or a spiritual level ?

The priest is the only person able to offer The Holy Sacrifice of the Mass and administer (most of) the sacraments.

On a worldly level (finance, legislation etc) the parish priest is the person who is legally liable for all parish affairs. All people are equal in the eyes of God. The parish priest just happens to have specific responsibilities.
Keep the Faith!

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Gerard

Rose,

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Gerry can you name a parish in The United Kingdom that does not have a parish priest?


This from the Diocese of Rochester:

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Are there models of effective parishes without priests?  There are.  In our own diocese, we have 13 parishes with pastoral administrators rather than full time resident priests.  These pastoral administrators function as pastors in all areas except the celebration of sacraments; however, Canon Law reserves the title of “pastor” to priests.  By all accounts, these parishes are vital and alive.  A priest is assigned as sacramental minister to celebrate the sacraments for such a community.


http://www.dor.org/Planning/Contact%20Us/faq.htm

Gerry
"The institutional and charismatic aspects are quasi coessential to the Church's constitution" (Pope John Paul II, 1998).
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