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Meetings, Seminars, Workshops, And What Not
Topic Started: Wednesday, 9. May 2007, 01:28 (261 Views)
Rose of York
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Am I alone in thinking the Church has "seminar fatigue"

Clergy and people who want to tell us what is good for us hold workshops, conferences, seminars, weekend study groups. Why? Have they nothing else to do? If there's a priest with a bit of spare time on his hands will he please get himself to my parish and give my tired parish priest a couple of days off.

Here is a little gem.

Independent Catholic News
 


One Planet - Fit For Life?

Biodiversity, GM crops, population growth, but also the dawn and sunset chorus of birdsong and the beauty of nature all around us. Led by well-known environmentalists Mary Colwell and Columban father, Seán McDonagh, a forthcoming weekend at Emmaus House will be focused not only on the problems facing our natural world but also on the riches and hope it offers us as we discover or rediscover our interconnectedness with all living things.

Religion has often been blamed for much that is amiss in our attitudes towards the earth and each other, but there is much that the ancient wisdom of Christianity can still tell us. Creation is central to the Eucharist but what does that mean to us today? Indeed, how can we, given the complexity of life and creation, spread its message of Christian hope?

The weekend begins at 6.30pm on Friday 18th May and ends with lunch on Sunday 20th May. The cost, which includes accommodation, is £130. It is also possible to be non-residential and follow each day separately.

For all further information please contact either Angela or Fiona at Emmaus House: Email: administration@emmaushouse.org.uk


If people want to spend £130 on a weekend of talks and discussion about the dawn and sunset chorus of birdsong and the beauty of nature all around us, and focus not only on the problems facing our natural world but also on the riches and hope it offers us as we discover or rediscover our interconnectedness with all living things, I hope they enjoy it. I'll take the dog to the river for a swim, look at a few wild flowers, listen to the birds, chat to a few friends, enjoy nature and it will cost me nothing. Last Saturday on the way home from Mass I met an Irishman who was walking along a country lane, drinking red wine from a very expensive glass, while he enjoyed communing with nature. He was very much "interconnected" with all living things, and very soberly contented.

Am I just a whinging moaner? Why do priests run these seminars?
Keep the Faith!

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You are not alone in your thinking Rose.

And more to the point you are not alone in your moaning.

PJD
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Rose of York
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May 9 2007, 07:15 PM
You are not alone in your thinking Rose.

And more to the point you are not alone in your moaning.

PJD

I bet a lot of hard pressed priests, running three far flung parishes, moan about it.

Do six years at seminary equip a priest or monk to run seminars on biodiversity and GM crops? What next? feline morality, canine fertility treatment, bovine polygamy, bbla bla bla?

If I were the Pope (I assure you I am not) the order would be given, that ordained monks who wished to be involved in non monastic affairs were to give high priority to giving diocesan clergy a hand. I was under the impression the desire to offer Mass and administer the sacraments was the usual reason for becoming a priest.


http://l-e-a.org/_wsn/page2.html

The seminars are money spinners.
Keep the Faith!

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Rose of York
May 9 2007, 12:28 AM
Am I alone in thinking the Church has "seminar fatigue"

Clergy and people who want to tell us what is good for us hold workshops, conferences, seminars, weekend study groups. Why? Have they nothing else to do? If there's a priest with a bit of spare time on his hands will he please get himself to my parish and give my tired parish priest a couple of days off.

Here is a little gem.

Independent Catholic News
 


One Planet - Fit For Life?

Biodiversity, GM crops, population growth, but also the dawn and sunset chorus of birdsong and the beauty of nature all around us. Led by well-known environmentalists Mary Colwell and Columban father, Seán McDonagh, a forthcoming weekend at Emmaus House will be focused not only on the problems facing our natural world but also on the riches and hope it offers us as we discover or rediscover our interconnectedness with all living things.

Religion has often been blamed for much that is amiss in our attitudes towards the earth and each other, but there is much that the ancient wisdom of Christianity can still tell us. Creation is central to the Eucharist but what does that mean to us today? Indeed, how can we, given the complexity of life and creation, spread its message of Christian hope?

The weekend begins at 6.30pm on Friday 18th May and ends with lunch on Sunday 20th May. The cost, which includes accommodation, is £130. It is also possible to be non-residential and follow each day separately.

For all further information please contact either Angela or Fiona at Emmaus House: Email: administration@emmaushouse.org.uk


If people want to spend £130 on a weekend of talks and discussion about the dawn and sunset chorus of birdsong and the beauty of nature all around us, and focus not only on the problems facing our natural world but also on the riches and hope it offers us as we discover or rediscover our interconnectedness with all living things, I hope they enjoy it. I'll take the dog to the river for a swim, look at a few wild flowers, listen to the birds, chat to a few friends, enjoy nature and it will cost me nothing. Last Saturday on the way home from Mass I met an Irishman who was walking along a country lane, drinking red wine from a very expensive glass, while he enjoyed communing with nature. He was very much "interconnected" with all living things, and very soberly contented.

Am I just a whinging moaner? Why do priests run these seminars?



Laity have been accused and spurned for encroaching on duties and functions presumably reserved for the clergy-here we have a case in reverse-members of the parish laity and invited[laity]guest lecturers should be invited to speak on topics especially on the topic of creation which is actually a whisper in the midst of an explosion from our education system and media shouting "evolution is a fact"etc-jimc etc
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Rose
This is just a modern management craze which the Church has picked up on. That doesn't make it any better, of course.

John
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Gerard

Rose,

Men become Religious Priests because their charism is not for parish ministry but for other ministries - such as preaching.

Gerry
"The institutional and charismatic aspects are quasi coessential to the Church's constitution" (Pope John Paul II, 1998).
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I think there is something in what jmc1 said - discussions like this are pre-arranged, but little input is allowed from ordinary laity I think (don't really know because I don't attend them, they are always late in the evening etc.)

I make my comment because in the case of half or whole day arrangements of this kind, unless you have an agenda supplied with times of speakers etc., and you cannot spend the whole day at the Church premises, then it is rather useless just popping you head in.

PJD
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