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| Topic Started: Wednesday, 2. May 2007, 19:46 (592 Views) | |
| James | Wednesday, 2. May 2007, 19:46 Post #1 |
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In another thread I made an innocent posting which was attactkd by a few members. It was insinuated that I was pulling somebodys leg and that I have no time for the old tridentine mass and I was laughing at people who said the rosary during mass. I am not now hiding behind the anonyminity of th the internet. My name is James Gallagher and I was born in Bundoran Ireland in 1937 There were 5 altars and one portable altar in our church as it was a seaside town. The responses to the latin mass were many and only the young boys of the town were taught these things including the responses tp the masses for the dead and the reception of a remains into the church and graveside. I spent nearly a year learning these things. During the season there were always six masses any given time going on in the church with communion on the high altar mass only. We lads were in and out all the time clocking up maybe 60 masses a week each at 20 minutes a mass. The people were coming in and going out all the time but not responding to what any priest was saying as the people in the pews did not responsd by tradition. That was our job.!! They looked for a mass just starting and said the rosary or whatever. It was a powerhouse of prayer on both sides, so please do not be insulting to an old man who probably clocked up more tridentine masses in one season than you will ever do in your whole life. |
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| Deleted User | Wednesday, 2. May 2007, 20:00 Post #2 |
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Dear James, I am so sorry that you feel you have been personally insulted - I'm certain that was never anyone's intention and it certainly wasn't mine. I do hope that you reconsider and stay with us because your input and experience are invaluable. KatyA |
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| Clare | Wednesday, 2. May 2007, 20:07 Post #3 |
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"Attacked" is a strong word, James. And as you say, by "a few" posters (including me, though I wouldn't use the word "attacked"!). Most didn't "attack" though. In fact, as I recall, Rose agreed with every word of your post! Don't let me put you off! I mean no harm. Clare. |
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| PJD | Wednesday, 2. May 2007, 20:35 Post #4 |
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James I agree with KatyA. Also don't let Clare put you off - indeed she certainly means no harm! PJD |
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| Rose of York | Wednesday, 2. May 2007, 21:34 Post #5 |
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James, I am asking you, in my position as a member of the Administration, not to leave this forum. You are an asset. Come to think of it, so are all the members. I want you to remain, James, to give us your opinions and share your experiences. We have room on here for all Catholics, whatever Rites, traditions, devotions or practises they prefer. It is good for us all to share our memories of "how things used to be". "A" may recount memories of how things were in his or her parish, "B" may have been in an entirely different parish and have had different experiences, therefore have different memories. I also consider it is healthy for members to discuss various Rites, traditions and practises, provided we do it in a spirit of charity, and all members are united in loyalty to The Holy Father and the magisterium. |
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| nelly k | Wednesday, 2. May 2007, 21:38 Post #6 |
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James I missed it all, so Iam not sure what happened, I hope you dont stop visiting and posting... the thing is I was born around the time of the Old Rite , 1964 to be precise, I only really know the New Rite... I depend on people like you to tell me what its all about, I listen to Derek and Carlo and John S... who all have different views, but I need to make sense of it all, I have a great respect for the Old Rite, and believe it should be available, My Dad served early Morning Mass weekday and Sunday as a boy. But I love Mass most of the time the way it is... as said on another site , its saved my soul many times... so I feel deeply offended when I belive it is being ridiculed or somehow inferiour to the Old Rite... I think what I am trying to say is that you dont know who is looking in on this site and others, and you dont really know the impact of your posts... and what a loss you and others are to the Catholic Faith in cyberspace , so hopefully you have made your point about somtimes things being said that appear personal and hurtfull or uncharitable, and you continue to post...I know we are not all born to be Saints , but thinking of my Daughters Confirmation and what these early Catholic/Christians put up with , remarkable, dont you think James. nelly |
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| CARLO | Wednesday, 2. May 2007, 22:30 Post #7 |
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James Let me add my voice to all those who have asked you to reconsider and stay with us to continue our discussions. Let me also apologise personally if in the heat of debate about matters I really care about I have caused you to take offence. I mean no personal insult or disrespect. In fact I have nothing but the greatest regard for those like yourself whose recollections about our Church go back much further than mine. It is ironic that we were both brought up by the sea although in different countries and in different times. Something of the rolling of the waves in both of us perhaps? Pax tecum Peace be with thee CARLO |
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| jimc1 | Wednesday, 2. May 2007, 22:45 Post #8 |
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Jamie sounds a lot younger than jimc no matter how old you are>>>any way talk about being attacked what could be worse than being called a heretic,a pagan and worst of all a protestant as I have been on other Catholic forums but a Catholic on other forums and that is good enough for me so what have you got to complain about-jimc |
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| Rose of York | Wednesday, 2. May 2007, 22:52 Post #9 |
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jimc the initial posting was made by James, not jamie. What happens on other forums has no relevance on here. |
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| Derekap | Wednesday, 2. May 2007, 22:53 Post #10 |
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In Tridentine Days it was usual for priests to offer Holy Mass individually. Concelebration was a rare event - in fact virtually unheard of. I wonder if in Bundoran there are still plenty of priests and they still offer Holy Mass individually or concelebrate. |
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| Rose of York | Wednesday, 2. May 2007, 22:55 Post #11 |
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In the interests of Peace, Joy, friendship etc on the forum: I will leave this thread open for this evening only, then archive it. |
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| jimc1 | Wednesday, 2. May 2007, 23:17 Post #12 |
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Rose I stand corrected-sorry Jamie-anyone want to bet whether James is older than jimc-but what I was trying to say was I am still here,there and everywhere-the scourge of protestants and dissident Catholics alike-jimc |
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| Deleted User | Thursday, 3. May 2007, 00:07 Post #13 |
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James Me likewise, don't go. A good Donegal man like yourself will surely give out and receive criticism without taking too much offence. It's all part of trying to think through our approach to that great frustrating Mystery of the Faith. Stay with it. John |
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| James | Thursday, 3. May 2007, 00:15 Post #14 |
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No it was a seasidertown with an influx of priests from all over the world, Masses ended at midday and as was said priests had to have an altar to themselves. They were in queue in the sarcristry to say mass. If somebody like Carlo wanted to get involved he would see the sarctistan and he he would let him serve as many masses as he wanted but he would be on the altar side of the rails. |
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| James | Thursday, 3. May 2007, 00:31 Post #15 |
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Sorry derekap I did not read you properly. Now they concelelbrate. Sorry James |
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