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Secondary Schools To Teach Fair Play; Fair play, respect and good manners.
Topic Started: Monday, 30. April 2007, 11:15 (232 Views)
Joseph

Secondary schools will be required to teach fair play, according to The Telegraph today:-
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Secondary schools to teach fair play

Lessons are to be introduced into secondary schools aimed at teaching fair play, respect and good manners.

The classes in "social and emotional intelligence" will become part of the national curriculum in an attempt to reverse the rudeness and violence that many feel has become endemic among the you.

Pupils will be given "golden rules" such as "we are gentle, we are kind, we work hard, we look after property, we are honest, we do not hurt anybody".Plans for the lessons, called the social and emotional aspects of learning, will be announced by the schools minister Jim Knight.

After a pilot scheme in a primary school in Plymouth, teachers said they found a calmer atmosphere in the classroom and less bullying.

The behaviour of difficult pupils also improved, and they found it easier to integrate with classmates.

Others, however, are likely to accuse the Government of "nannying", and call on teaching of values to be left to parents.

Nick Gibb, the Conservative schools spokesman, said: "This kind of stuff is ghastly. Schools have really got to focus on the core subjects of academic education and teaching children how to learn."

·  Your view: Should children be taught manners in school?
Link to Telegraph article: http://tinyurl.com/28y53p


Is it safe to assume that our Catholic Schools be exempt from this, since their ethos should more than cover it anyway?
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ANGLO-CATH

I think this is a very good idea, something that probably should have been done years ago. I always remember thinking that a lot of what I learnt at school was irrelevent and more time could have been spent learning the practicalities of living in modern society.

I also think that the subject shold be covered in Catholic schools as well - it may throw up some good points of discussion where what is socially acceptable, is not acceptable in a catholic life.
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Others, however, are likely to accuse the Government of "nannying", and call on teaching of values to be left to parents.

Nick Gibb, the Conservative schools spokesman, said: "This kind of stuff is ghastly. Schools have really got to focus on the core subjects of academic education and teaching children how to learn."
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Schools are not being called upon to take on a role that belongs to parents. By teaching manners and consideration, they will be supporting good parents, and filling a gap for children whose parents fail to teach them good behaviour.
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Joseph
Apr 30 2007, 11:15 AM
Is it safe to assume that our Catholic Schools be exempt from this, since their ethos should more than cover it anyway?

What would be the justification for claiming exemption? The Church is subject to laws passed by Parliament. The ethos of every school should "more than cover it anyway". Some schools (including some Catholic ones) are not up to standard.

In the past, the Church dealt with criminal activities internally, and look where that got us. Asking for exemption from laws that do not contravene the laws of God, would do us nothing but harm. I personally would be ashamed if our Cardinal asked for exemption. Let us demonstrate our loyalty to our nation.
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I dunno.

It has all the hallmarks of another Trojan Horse to me!

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Apr 30 2007, 02:33 PM
I dunno.

It has all the hallmarks of another Trojan Horse to me!

Clare.

Please, Clare, will you expand upon that? Not everybody understands the expression "another Trojan horse". I for one am not sure what message you are trying to convey.
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pete

I would suggest send the parents to school and teach them good parenting. I feel that it’s unfair that teachers should be expected to take on the role where parents have failed. The first lesson for parents I would suggest is to teach your children the magic words (PLEASE and THANK YOU).
Since caning in schools was abolished, the country is now reaping what we have sown. Add to this, the lack of religious education, comprising of Christian moral principles, we are experiencing the results of parental and teacher failure.
Simple answer would be to bring back some of my old nuns; they would most certainly instil stability into the schoolroom jungles. In no uncertain terms they would let the pupils know who was in charge and it wouldn’t be the students, that’s for sure.
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Rose of York
Apr 30 2007, 02:45 PM
Clare
Apr 30 2007, 02:33 PM
I dunno.

It has all the hallmarks of another Trojan Horse to me!

Clare.

Please, Clare, will you expand upon that? Not everybody understands the expression "another Trojan horse". I for one am not sure what message you are trying to convey.

What I mean is, on the surface it looks fine and good.

But it may well be used to smuggle through all manner of pernicious, politically correct, Godless "values".

And, for that reason, I would be pleased if Cardinal Cormac Murphy O'Connor called for exemption.

It would show foresight and wisdom.

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nelly k

This should be used as an oppertunity to say .... We told you so.... the ridding of faith and religion in schools is not a ggod idea, or was not a good idea... religion , ours in particular, not that Iam biased :D gives more than adequate guidance about such matters, morality and fairnes to others , sometimes it goes wrong but on the whole it worked, the fall in religious practices of all denominations has I belive lead to a much more self seeking attitude in society.

Clare and her trogan horse, once agian good point... if they ie the state can get this through there is a danger of the Secularists once agian saying faith Schools not required... because we do morality of sorts ie politeness , good manners... these two things vary from culture to culture... so just more debate.

This brings me to an Article in the Times magazine on Sunday The Great Get A Life Debate about therapy and psychoanalysis, the Catholics get a mention, a chap called Gareth Woods is refferred to woth a read, about how people moved from Spiritual direction by Clergy and such like... realy worth reading.... nelly
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I agree with Nelly and Clare. Maybe there's an agenda there. We shall see.

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Rose of York
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There is nothing new about this.

The nuns and lay teachers at our school taught "golden rules" such as "we are gentle, we are kind, we work hard, we look after property, we are honest, we do not hurt anybody". Their attitude was "we educate the whole child, we do not just teach subjects".
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Rose,

I agree; there is no agenda here. It's just the rest of 'em catching up!
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May 2 2007, 12:52 PM
Rose,

I agree; there is no agenda here. It's just the rest of 'em catching up!

If all faiths that have schools were to get involved in this, willingly, they could take an active part in planning the curriculum for lessons in good behaviour. Persons responsible for Faith Schools, of whatever faith, have the necessary experience.

Catholics were, for a long time, considered to be "out of mainstream society". We need to be actively involved, not opting out.

Reputable youth organisations could play a role.

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The Cub Scout Promise is:

    I promise that I will do my best
    To do my duty to God and to the Queen,
    To help other people
    And to keep the Cub Scout Law

The Cub Scout Law is:

    Cub Scouts always do their best
    Think of others before themselves
    And do a good turn every day.



What's new about youngsters being expected to be good?
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Em.

Once I was picked on at school, I was about 7, and my brother suggested that I hit back, when it was time to return to school, after lunch, my brother asked to n repeat what he suggested, and I said hit back.
"No,No," he said, "not with your hand you might hur your fist" he turned and picked a piece of deadly wood and gave it to me, he said "use this" it will get results for you. I never got to use it though :P
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Joseph

I'm not sure that sort of behaviour is quite what this incentive is aiming to achieve, Em. :)
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