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| Rose of York | Thursday, 12. April 2007, 10:54 Post #31 |
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And just because Clare says something, doesn't make it any more authoritative than what is objectively true!
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| Clare | Thursday, 12. April 2007, 11:00 Post #32 |
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Nelly, That rule does not "go with the Old Rite". It came before the "Old Rite", it goes back to St Paul, if not before. God inspired St Paul to include it in one of his letters, it was the norm in Catholicism, East and West, until the 70s! And it was never abolished either. And if you find the prospect of wearing a hat or head scarf or hood or something in church is asking too much, then I despair! It wasn't too much for any other generation of Catholic ever! It was fine from St Paul down to 1970, in countless different ages and cultures. What is so special about this one, that its womenfolk are "above" wearing veils for worship? Besides, if you did stumble upon a Trad Mass, and didn't have a head covering, noone is going to complain! Unless you're extremely unlucky! I'm well used to seeing women without headcoverings week after week at SSPX Masses! They don't get hauled over the coals! Clare. |
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| Clare | Thursday, 12. April 2007, 11:02 Post #33 |
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Ah, Rose, but what I say is objectively true! :P Clare. |
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| Gerard | Thursday, 12. April 2007, 11:08 Post #34 |
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Textural analysis: 1. Lash out and attempt to bait the other person. 2. Concede the point. Gerry |
| "The institutional and charismatic aspects are quasi coessential to the Church's constitution" (Pope John Paul II, 1998). | |
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| Gerard | Thursday, 12. April 2007, 11:34 Post #35 |
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Bit like Altar rails..................
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| "The institutional and charismatic aspects are quasi coessential to the Church's constitution" (Pope John Paul II, 1998). | |
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| Rose of York | Thursday, 12. April 2007, 12:26 Post #36 |
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This has nothing to do with charismatic, or with SSPX or even Latin Mass Society. Catholics in ordinary parishes that have neither charismatic prayer groups, nor Tridentine Mass, disagree on these matters, of how an altar should look. That applies in this, our Cyber Parish. One does not need to be involved with, or follow, a particular group, to have strong feelings about this matter. |
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| Michael | Thursday, 12. April 2007, 12:57 Post #37 |
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i'm with nelly, increasinly certain posters are getting a wee bit more catholic than the pope with their views on things such as the normative mass and latin rite, and increasinly snobbish with their views on how to dress etc, |
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| Clare | Thursday, 12. April 2007, 14:36 Post #38 |
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You're not making an awful lot of sense, Gerry. :blink: Clare. |
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| Clare | Thursday, 12. April 2007, 14:43 Post #39 |
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Not at all. I find having a block of concrete blocking the view of the altar more of a barrier than some low level altar rails. That said, I have no objection to the iconostases of the Eastern Rite. When I got married, we had a Tridentine (indult) Mass in a lovely church with its High Altar untouched, and altar rails still in place. Unfortunately, a table altar had been introduced. Though, it was tastefully done in keeping with the church architecture, it didn't half present a much greater barrier than the altar rails, especially for the bride and groom who had to kneel on chairs a good few feet away from each other, so we could see round the table to the High Altar! It was ridiculous! I remember showing a photo of the church to a colleague (a Spiritualist who used to be an Anglican). She pointed at the High Altar, and said "That's the altar, isn't it?". Then she pointed to the table: "What's that?" Clare. |
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| Clare | Thursday, 12. April 2007, 14:51 Post #40 |
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Not guilty. I thought my postings on the "dress" thread made it pretty clear that I thought we should not judge other people based on what they were wearing. You'd be hard pressed to find a trad congregation which is full of people who are dressed immaculately! Trads are a cosmopolitan bunch. A few years back I saw a lad coming out of confession before a Trad Mass wearing a Linkin Park hoodie! B) It's not uncommon to see jeans, football strips, chinos, hoodies and the like. Eyebrow rings even! You can continue believing we are a bunch of elitist snobs if that's what you really want to believe. I know it is not true. Clare. |
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| nelly k | Thursday, 12. April 2007, 17:39 Post #41 |
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I just showed my 13 year old the clip, who has been to Old Rite Mass`s, and I would hope is not disrespectfull of this Catholic worship, she has just butted in to say "of course she is not", that was me ticked of... anyway she said how is the Priest meant to get to things, where is the room for the Chalice and the like, also that the Altar looks a bit Jewish... nelly |
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| Rose of York | Thursday, 12. April 2007, 18:37 Post #42 |
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I voted accidentally, I pressed a mouse at an inappropriate moment. I find the idea of people voting to demonstrate which arrangement of altar they "prefer" distasteful. The Mass is neither a fashion show or an architectural exhibition. It is the re-enactment of the most unjust execution of all time. Comparisons bring to mind magazines like Harpers and Country Life. |
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| Clare | Thursday, 12. April 2007, 18:57 Post #43 |
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I'm sure the priest knows how to cope! It's not like it's never been done before! As for the altar looking Jewish... :blink: Clare. |
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| Clare | Thursday, 12. April 2007, 19:05 Post #44 |
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I would never have known you'd voted if you hadn't just said so!
I find talk of what kind of Mass people "prefer" distasteful too. But that's what things have come to alas. At least I resisted the temptation to put it to a Google fight!
The Mass isn't meant to be a talent show either, but I've seen comments in forums about how readers should be able to read clearly. Well, the Sanctuary is deserving of proper attention too.
Never read them. Might have seen them in a doctors' waiting room, or hairdressers! Clare. |
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| nelly k | Thursday, 12. April 2007, 19:49 Post #45 |
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Clare ... she is 13 , very young, its her impression, remember you were 13, you want her to understand the old right well there has got to be better ways... If she wants to Know about the Old Rite, there is at least one on this forum I would refer her to ... there are those on this Forum who have a much more inclusive manner regarding this matter, who would not roll there eyes or looked shocked s at her lack of understanding or how on earth she thought that , but would hold out a hand and give some direction. And you wonder why I say those like minded to yourself present an elitist and snobbish tendancy. This then goes back to Gerry`s comments and people not participating,how can they if they dont understand it , are afraid to admit this, in case ridiculed. nelly |
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