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| Topic Started: Friday, 23. March 2007, 23:46 (660 Views) | |
| maklavan | Thursday, 7. June 2007, 17:22 Post #16 |
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An interesting footnote: About two years before is wife's death, Mugabe married his former secretary, Grace Marufu, 40 years his junior and with whom he already had two children, in a tribal ceremony. Abandoning his previous claim of a Christian background, Mugabe justified the marriage under a traditional African law which allows him to take a junior wife. On August 17, 1996, Mugabe and Marufu were married in a Roman Catholic wedding Mass at Kutama College, a Catholic Mission School he previously attended. Nelson Mandela was among the guests. A spokesman for Catholic Archbishop Patrick Chakaipa, who presided over the ceremony, said the diocese saw "no impediment" to the nuptials. So it seems that not all the Catholic clergy side with Archbishop Ncube. One would love to hear the reasons why this marriage was regarded as being without impediment. |
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| Eve | Thursday, 19. July 2007, 15:53 Post #17 |
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I fear that one day Archbishop Ncube will be martyred for his Faith and justice. Please pray for him. The full article is available on http://www.indcatholicnews.com/ncub457.html |
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| Timothy | Thursday, 19. July 2007, 19:08 Post #18 |
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I read this story yesterday, very distressing, and I hope the Archbishop will be in the prayers of all Catholics, he is an honourable and brave individual. Has Mugabe been excommunicated? |
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| Rose of York | Thursday, 19. July 2007, 20:46 Post #19 |
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According to a Zimbabwean Jesuit, Mugabe has done that himself. Link to All Africa site
This is the Pastoral Letter that got Mugabe mad Link to GOD HEARS THE CRY OF THE OPPRESSED
Bearing in mind the close ties Rhodesia/Zimbabwe has had with Britain since it was discovered, one wonders why intervention in Iraq is considered to be vital, but Britain does little or nothing for the Zimbabwean people. Pass the OIL, Alice. |
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| Rose of York | Tuesday, 11. September 2007, 20:16 Post #20 |
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Zimbabwe: Archbishop Pius Ncube has resigned The Catholic Archbishop of Bulawayo Pius Ncube has resigned. Archbishop Ncube said in a press statement issued today that the Vatican has accepted a request to leave office he made in July. The archbishop said he took the decision as a result of "a State-driven, vicious attack not just on myself, but by proxy on the Catholic Church in Zimbabwe." "In order to spare my fellow Bishops and the body of the Church any further attacks, I decided this was the best course of action. The resignation follows dramatic allegations publicised by state media for weeks that the archbishop had an adulterous affair with the wife of a junior state employee who worked in his office. The case is the High Court in Bulawayo. The archbishop denies the allegations. Less than two weeks ago, the Catholic Bishops of Zimbabwe came to the defence of their colleague, saying the accusations against him were "outrageous and utterly deplorable and "an assault on the Catholic Church. Here is the full text of Archbishop Ncube's statement: "Today the Vatican will publicise their acceptance of an offer of resignation tendered to them by myself in July. I wrote to the Pope within days of what was obviously a State driven, vicious attack not just on myself, but by proxy on the Catholic Church in Zimbabwe. In order to spare my fellow Bishops and the body of the Church any further attacks, I decided this was the best course of action. "It has been necessary for me to wait for the Vatican to acknowledge my resignation before making it public. It is my feeling that I should face this case in court as Pius Ncube, an individual, not that the Holy Catholic Church of God should seem to be on trial because I am its head. "I know that there will be many of you who will be bitterly disappointed at my leaving my post as Archbishop of Bulawayo and a few who will be delighted, seeing their mission as having been accomplished. "To the many thousands of Catholics and ordinary Zimbabweans as well as those in the international community who have stood by me in my hour of need, who have offered their prayers and stood in solidarity with me, I thank you all from the depths of my heart. "I remain a Catholic Bishop in Zimbabwe, and will continue to speak out on the issues that sadly become more acute by the day. I am committed to the Word of Our Lord Jesus Christ, and see my decision as opening up new opportunities to serve Him through serving the poor and suffering of Zimbabwe, who sadly become more numerous and more impoverished every day. "I remain unshakably committed to the Mission declared by Christ: "The Spirit of The Lord is upon me for He has anointed me to bring the Good News to the afflicted. He has sent me to proclaim liberty to captives, sight to the blind, to let the oppressed go free, to proclaim a year of favour from the Lord. (Luke 4: 18-19) "Recent events have brought me closer to God and have given me a clearer sense of mission. I have not been silenced by the crude machinations of a wicked regime. I am committed to promoting the social teachings of the Church, and to working among the poorest and most needy in Zimbabwe. My wish is to be a lowly servant of all: as stated by Jesus "I came not to be served, but to serve. (Matthew 20:28) "I will use my experiences working among the people to lobby for greater humanitarian support, in particular for food and medical supplies at this time of extreme national crisis. I have various options available at the moment, both within the Church and within the civic movement, and will decide in the next few weeks which will provide the best platform to continue with God,s work. "My passion is to get closer to God through prayer and to preach the Gospel so that the people move away from selfishness to care for God and others, and to fight for human rights. "Go out to the whole world, proclaim the Gospel to all creation. (Mark 16:15) "May God bless and be with all of us. LINK Reproduced in full with permission Please continue to pray for Archbishop Ncube and the people of Zimbabwe |
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| Deleted User | Tuesday, 11. September 2007, 20:25 Post #21 |
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Thanks for posting this Rose. A very sad tale. It is hard to read this as anything other than an admission of the adultery charge but even if that is the case it does not detract from the sheer bravery of the man for speaking out so strongly for so long against the excesses in that country. Regards John |
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| Rose of York | Tuesday, 11. September 2007, 20:39 Post #22 |
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John the Archbishop denies the allegations. He is being sued in a Zimbabwean civil court, and is denying the allegations in court. If the statement is an admission, that makes him a liar to the Pope, and also says he plans to commit perjury. I cannot see Archbishop Ncube lying to the Holy Father, or to the Court. I read reports that the photographs allegedly taken, of Archbishop Ncube and the woman, are so blurred it will be very difficult to make positive identifications. |
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| Deleted User | Wednesday, 12. September 2007, 09:07 Post #23 |
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I hope you are right Rose. I cannot see the logic in the resignation if you are. Regards John |
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| maklavan | Thursday, 13. September 2007, 15:02 Post #24 |
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Let me bring you up to speed on the so-called adultery scam. The whole ploy was a fake, organised by the Central Intelligence bureau. A relative of Mugabe,s wife posed as a SABC journalist to gain access to Ncube,and asked him what he thought of USA bishops who had broken celibacy rules. the Archbishop replied," Everybody is a sinner;there is nobody who does not sin". this was edited to make it seem that Ncube was replying to a question as to whether he had committed adultery. The reporter in question is the same one who tried to nail the leader of the Opposition with a similar scam. It is sad that the archbishop chose to resign, as it dilutes his good name. |
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| Timothy | Sunday, 16. September 2007, 19:08 Post #25 |
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This episode has been very depressing news for everyone concerned, bar Mugabe. I read a good article in The Independent during the week, which asked who can lead the struggle against Mugabe now? That is the problem, he was a great leader for so many, and this incident, which may be as has been said, totally false, but the sin of adultery even if it was what happened, pales into utter insignificance to the crimes of Mugabe, and what has been lost is a great critic of Mugabe. |
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| Deleted User | Sunday, 16. September 2007, 21:49 Post #26 |
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I agree with Timothy. I'd like to believe the story related by Maklavan but I think you'll see in the press including the Catholic press over this weekend the tacit acceptance of the main accusation. hard to argue past those pictures really. Regards John |
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| Rose of York | Sunday, 16. September 2007, 21:54 Post #27 |
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It will take more than this to shut Pius Ncube up.
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| Timothy | Tuesday, 18. September 2007, 23:00 Post #28 |
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I hope I was wrong in saying that a critic of Mugabe has been lost, I sincerely hope that I was wrong. However his resignation has meant that he is no longer the second most prominent Catholic in the country, and his image has been tarnished in the eyes of some. |
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| Rose of York | Tuesday, 18. September 2007, 23:53 Post #29 |
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Timothy your comment does nothing to help the Archbishop or the people who are suffering in Zimbabwe.
Not in the eyes of people who know the first thing about Mugabe's evil regime. National leaders of their ilk will stop at nothing. Maklavan has worked in the African missions. I am inclined to trust his interpretation of recent events. |
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| Deleted User | Wednesday, 19. September 2007, 09:12 Post #30 |
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I think Timothy has a very strong point though Rose. There can be no doubt that this latest controversy will seriously damage Pius Ncube's standing and adversely affect the impact of his criticism of the regime. Whether the accusations are true or , as we all hope, false, the damge is done at least for the moment. Regards John |
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