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| The Holy Family's Example To 21st Century Families | |
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| Topic Started: Thursday, 23. November 2006, 22:37 (158 Views) | |
| Rose of York | Thursday, 23. November 2006, 22:37 Post #1 |
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Lightheartedly I posted a spoof feminist translation of a Gospel passage on another thread. Would anyone like to join me in discussion of the Holy Family's example to modern families? |
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| Gerry2 | Friday, 24. November 2006, 19:18 Post #2 |
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eg if a young girl's pregnant it's not the end of the world, but the couple have the duty to try to stay together and the community have the duty to support them... PS Where did you post your spoof? Gerry2 |
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| Rose of York | Friday, 24. November 2006, 19:45 Post #3 |
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Click on link and see my post of 23 Nov, 9.16 pm, on the Equality, Diversity and Fruitcakery thread. The spoof is me taking a rise out of ardent feminists, not at the Holy Family. Obviously none of us would do that. Patrick had mentioned the publication of a new Bible translation that "replaced some “divisive” teachings of Christianity in order to present a “more just language” for groups such as feminists and homosexuals." What next? LINK |
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| Rose of York | Friday, 24. November 2006, 19:56 Post #4 |
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Gerry2 its an interesting point. A lot of happy marriages came of difficult situtions, in which two people would be expected to face up to their responsibilities, to a child conceived not only out of wedlock, but not even into a comitted relationship. The couple had two choices: 1 Make their vows to love and to cherish, and make up their minds to be good to each other. From that love could grown. or 2 Marry in a spirit of resentment, not a recipe for love. Joseph was a brave and decent man. He could have said "that was no message from God. It was a nightmare." He could have called Mary a liar and then rejected her. No, he married her. As for Mary, some young girls would have killed themselves. I am not sure what support they got from the community. At least the innkeeper did his best in difficult circumstances. Is there any record of Joseph's parents? I wonder if his friends and any of his relations shunned him because of his marriage? |
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| nelly k | Friday, 24. November 2006, 20:21 Post #5 |
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Our Lady in difficult circumstances , knowing she was in the hands of God, trusted him, St Joseph done likewise, we have to love and trust God, like they did, things seem the worst ever, but they got on with it, nelly |
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| Gerard | Monday, 27. November 2006, 15:17 Post #6 |
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Rose, I thought this was a good idea for a thread. Something positive rather than the criticism in so many other threads. But then we know so little about them as a family. gerry2's points are very good but I would like to take something from even before Joseph took Mary into his house.
What I take from this is that righteousness means mercy more than justice. The law required stoning for adultery and Joseph intended avoiding the letter of a severe law in favour of a more compassionate solution. Mercy rather than justice. Gerry |
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| Rose of York | Tuesday, 28. November 2006, 22:44 Post #7 |
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Gerry this subject could lead to criticism. There are people who would think Mary was a "doormat" because she let Joseph make the decisions. I don't feel that way about the Holy Family, but some ardent feminists would. Today, it struck me for the first time, that a modern father could easily relate to Joseph. He was a highly skilled craftsman, carpenters would have been men of status when everything had to be done by hand. He would need to understand the varying kinds of timber, fixings, wood seasoning, joints, presumably there were dyes and finishes (I'm not sure). When the Holy Family fled to Egypt Joseph left his business behind. He could not possibly have taken all his equipment or his stock of timber. What about the customer base, probably built up over years? He would have to start again, in Egypt then later, in Nazareth. I wonder whether the Nazarenes could afford to pay for quality? For all we know the gold received from the Magi may have been a gift from God, to be turned into currency when times were difficult. |
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| Derekap | Wednesday, 29. November 2006, 22:01 Post #8 |
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A very modern and novel way of looking at such Biblical events, Rose. I have never looked at such events in that light. |
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