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Equality, Diversity And Fruitcakery Gone Mad
Topic Started: Friday, 10. November 2006, 22:05 (893 Views)
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Here's some politcal correctness, in Plymouth:

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CHURCHES HIT OUT AT PARKING CHARGES

by Rebecca Short.

11:00 - 09 November 2006 

A city council is to impose new car parking charges for Sunday morning church services so they are not "discriminatory to other faiths and religious praying days".Plymouth City Council had allowed free parking in some car parks for Christian churchgoers, but now has brought in a £1 an hour charge so they do not offend other faiths.

The move has angered churches in the city, and a protest letter has been sent to the authority.

A council parking representative replied, explaining that free parking would be discriminatory.

The letter read: "The basis of your representation was rejected on the grounds that the current free parking on a Sunday morning is discriminatory to other faiths and religious praying days.

"Dispensation is not given to other religions."

Regular churchgoer Mary Hooker, 66, wrote a letter of protest to be told worshippers couldn't have an exemption because it might "discriminate" against Muslim, Hindu, Sikh and Buddhist residents.

She said: "It is rather unforgiving. I have been going to church for 50 years and I have never had to pay.

"I have been worshipping here for 50 years - and neither I nor my parents have ever paid to park.

"I think it is disgusting.

"Loose change which people used to put in the collection plate is now being fed into pay and display machines.

"It seems the so-called politically correct reasons for this new charge are just a cover for the council to make even more money.

"They have effectively introduced a tax on going to church, and at a time when we are desperately trying to increase dwindling congregations I fear this is only going to put people off."

The 2001 census survey revealed that the combined total of Muslims, Hindus, Buddhists and Sikhs in Plymouth amounted to 1.1 per cent of the population.

The city has one Mosque which serves all of the Muslim population, estimated to be about 800. Plymouth also has one Buddhist centre, serving about 470 people, and one Synagogue for nearly 200 practising Jews in the community.

There are 150 Christian churches in the city.

Sunday parking charges were first introduced to Plymouth in 1998, but an exemption was granted to churches as a way of acknowledging the contribution it plays in city life.

Worshippers who regularly attend the city centre Anglican St Andrew's Church and Plymouth Methodist Central Hall have always relied on the Guildhall and Mayflower House Court car park's free service.

However, the service was also used by Sunday shoppers and other people - a loophole which is thought to have annoyed the council.

Reverend Nick McKinnel (CRT), rector of St Andrew's Church, said: "For them now to use other faiths as a way of withdrawing this concession seems pretty shabby.

"We were always granted free parking until noon, after the morning service finished.

"The reasoning behind this new charge betrays a total lack of understanding of the multi-faith agenda and serves only to divide communities.

"It does seem extraordinary to invoke other faiths as a reason to charge those who go to church.

"Everyone wants this to be a good city for those of all faiths and none.

"But the sort of spurious reasoning given on behalf of the city council betrays a total lack of understanding of the multi-faith agenda.

"Religious discrimination laws only apply in an employment context, and not to the provision of a service like a car park.

"If the council is imposing new charges because it wants more money then why not admit that?"

Sunday charges have also been brought into line with the rest of the week as well as being introduced in the mornings for the first time - a move set to net the council an extra £365,000 a year.

The city council already has a reputation for overzealous parking fines and last year the Barbican area was listed as one of the country's top ten ticket hotspots - generating more than £43,000. This was on top of the average £3 million a year that the council collects from parking tickets every year.

A spokesman for Plymouth city council said: "The decision not to give preferential treatment to any organisation in the city centre, whether it is a church or not, is an entirely reasonable one.

"However, the wording of the letter sent out to those who made representations should have explained this better, rather than focusing on the faiths issue."


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What's this? An English city for which the 2001 survey revealed that the combined total of Muslims, Hindus, Buddhists and Sikhs in Plymouth amounted to 1.1 per cent of the population.

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The city has one Mosque which serves all of the Muslim population, estimated to be about 800. Plymouth also has one Buddhist centre, serving about 470 people, and one Synagogue for nearly 200 practising Jews in the community.

There are 150 Christian churches in the city.


I reckon Plymouth should be put in mothballs and opened up once a year for people to take a look at old England.

Seriously, this is M A D.

Mr A goes to the cinema on Sunday afternoon. He has to pay to park his car.

Mrs B goes to church on Sunday afternoon. She has been getting away with it scot free.

If there had never been such a concession there would be no protest now.

The simple solution is for all parking to be free whenever any form of worship is scheduled whether it be Christain, Buddhist, Hindu, Pagan, Moonie, or anything else. And what about the people who worhip shops? They should be able to park for free. Some people make a false God of booze. They should park free and the City Council should lay on free taxis to take them home. The possibilities are endless.

In the event of my demands not being met, all Plymothian Christians should borrow 4 x 4s, paint them white, cut holes in the roof, stand on the back seat, wearing white frocks and home made white skull caps, and they should all drive in slow convoy through the city during the rush hour. That should solve it. If the City Council get funny Bishop Budd could kiss the ground in the Guildhall Car Park. That will definitely solve the problem.
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Regular churchgoer Mary Hooker, 66..............................................said "Loose change which people used to put in the collection plate is now being fed into pay and display machines."

Loose change? I'm tight. I don't tell the press. :fire:
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I wonder how many councillors are christian? matt
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Nov 10 2006, 11:14 PM
I wonder how many councillors are christian? matt

Hard to tell, Matt. Such things are not so obvious. However, I didn't see any Muslim/Hindu/Sikh/Buddhist councillors on the PCC website.
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bt.com lists seven Khans and three Patels in the Plymouth telephone directory. The book lists no Goldbergs and no Sachs.

I suggest that the Bishop of Plymouth open up negotiations with the City Council, and proposes the following settlement:

Churches together have a whip round, to raise enough money to pay Prayer Time parking fees for our separated brethren of faiths that pray on funny nights. The City Council then restore the status quo to the Christians.
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Will the Plymouth Brethren still be exempt from the charges?
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This is a sore point with me , I have 3 times had Parking Tickets issued while at Mass in the Cathedral in Edinburgh, each time its been the Sunday evening Mass, what are Taffic Wardens doing out on a Sunday at 7pm, Iwas not causing an obstruction, the town was relativly quiet.... :angry:
I dont think I should have posted this here but it just struck a cord.nelly
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Nov 11 2006, 07:36 PM
This is a sore point with me , I have 3 times had Parking Tickets issued while at Mass in the Cathedral in Edinburgh, each time its been the Sunday evening Mass, what are Taffic Wardens doing out on a Sunday at 7pm, Iwas not causing an obstruction, the town was relativly quiet.... :angry:
I dont think I should have posted this here but it just struck a cord.nelly

Nelly

Some years ago I came out of Sunday morning Mass in a Catholic Cathedral in England to find I had been booked. The road was deserted apart from a few other cars belonging to other Catholics who had also attended Mass. Like me they had been booked even though the long standing informal understanding with the police was that this would not happen.

Some 200 yards away outside a protestant church I noted no evidence of cars being booked even though they were also parked in a restricted area.

I wrote to the Chief Constable enclosing my parking slip, explaining what I had observed and stating that I felt I had been discriminated against.

My 'fine' was removed by return of post and without explanation or apology.

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This is getting to be ridiculous, isn't it? We don't have that problem here in the States, as I think most of the States don't fine for parking in restricted zones on Sundays. Most of the time, there is no charge for any kind of parking on Sundays, period.

This is just insane... :wacko:

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Lets see who can come up with the daftest politically correct "lets ignore Christianity" madness.
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Two-thirds of firms tear down the tinsel
by COLIN FERNANDEZ, Daily Mail Last updated at 12:13pm on 5th December 2005


More than two-thirds of companies have banned Christmas decorations from the office because of fears that they will offend people from minority faiths, according to a report.

A survey by employment law firm Peninsula found that most firms are killing the festive spirit to conform to political correctness.

About 70 per cent of employers said they had banned Christmas trees and decorations.

Peter Done, managing director of Peninsula, said: "The workplace is now the latest in an increasing number of places affected by the wave of political correctness being imposed on festive traditions.

"To ease fears of offending other faiths and excluding minorities, firms are increasingly banning Christmas decorations and traditions from the workplace."

The survey, which questioned more than 2,000 employers, is the latest example of killjoys undermining traditional ways of celebrating Christmas.

Just over a week ago, the Mail reported how staff at the Jobcentre in Peterborough were told not to exchange presents publicly and that there would be no Christmas party.

Following a barrage of criticism, Jobcentre bosses carried out an embarrassing U-turn.

Other 'Christmas killjoys' named and shamed in recent weeks include Waveney District Council, based in Lowestoft, Suffolk, which said festive lighting displays did not "fit with the council's core values of equality and diversity" because Christmas focused only on the Christian faith.

Britons are expected to spend £600million on decorations this year. This includes 32million metres of fairy lights to decorate the outside of their homes. The average electricity bill will go up by £2.50.
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Tax office exposed as Christmas killjoys
by STEVE DOUGHTY, Daily Mail
Staff at the Inland Revenue have been banned from donating to a charity which sends toys to needy children - because of its Christian links.

Do you know of any other Christmas killjoys? Name and shame them in our reader comments below

A leaked memo tells staff the department cannot continue to be associated with the charity Samaritan's Purse because its operations do not conform to diversity policies and could bring the Revenue into 'disrepute'.

It tells them they can donate to the charity in their own time, but not at work.

The ban, imposed by HM Revenue & Customs chairman David Varney after complaints from trade union activists, was called 'strange' by the Church of England last night.

The Revenue's 100,000 employees have supported Operation Christmas Child since the late 1990s.

The appeal sends more than a million shoe boxes from Britain to children in countries including Azerbaijan, Armenia, Romania, Serbia, Sudan and Mozambique.

Donors are asked to pack boxes with a cuddly toy, a toothbrush and toothpaste, soap and flannel, notepads, colouring books, picture books, pencils and crayons, tennis balls, caps and gloves, puzzles and sweets. Although no Christian literature is included in the boxes, the charity does separately distribute Christmas stories from the Bible and encourages Bible study in areas where it gives toys out.

The leaked memo, from Michael Scott, assistant director of the National Insurance Contributions Office in Newcastle upon Tyne, tells staff: 'We are not dictating who you can or cannot support, but you will appreciate that as a department we cannot be seen to promote activities that do not broadly fit with our philosophy or which could bring us into disrepute by association.'

A spokesman for the Inland Revenue added: 'We have very clear workplace policies regarding the importance of valuing difference.

'When an organisation demonstrates evidence of being at odds with those core values we cannot make special provision for that organisation to be supported on our premises. To do so would be hypocritical and at odds with our diversity commitments.'

The Church of England condemned the ban. Spokesman Lou Henderson said: 'It seems unfortunate for any organisation to make it difficult for their employees to make a Christian expression of generosity.

'It does seem a strange way of promoting diversity.

'If this charity was aiming to do a heavy conversion job on vulnerable children, that could be criticised. But the shoe box operation is another thing entirely.'

Steve Whaley, of Samaritan's Purse, said donors to the shoe box scheme were warned that boxes must not include 'anything of a political, racial or religious nature'.

He added: 'If found, such items are removed. However, because it is Christmas - and in distribution areas where it is culturally appropriate - we do offer, separately, a small booklet of Bible stories in the native language.

'The booklet is available in approximately half the locations we deliver shoe boxes to.'

He said the charity - which was introduced to Britain by evangelist Billy Graham and is run internationally by his son Franklin - has met with no disapproval from other organisations which allow collections, which include local authorities and private companies.

The shoe box ban follows this week's decision by Lambeth Council in South London to rename its Christmas street decorations 'Winter Lights' to avoid offending non-Christians.

Several years ago, Birmingham City Council notoriously rebranded the Christmas holidays 'Winterval'.
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Common sense, thanks to an Asian councillor

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The one wise man who saved a city's Christmas lights
by DAVID WILKES, Daily Mail Last updated at 16:05pm on 17th November 2005
Wolverhampton

For years, the city's Christmas lights have spelled out the decidedly unfestive message 'Welcome' (in several languages, of course).

But this year is different in Wolverhampton - tradition has made a comeback and the decorations have been switched on to reveal the words 'Happy Christmas'.

And the about-turn is all thanks to the efforts of one Asian councillor. Elias Mattu met council officers and argued for the true meaning of Christmas to be re-incorporated into the £150,000 display.

The 46-year-old, who is a Punjabi Christian, said: "Some officials seemed to think that it might offend some minorities.

"I pointed out that in India we have more than 500 religions. We have no problem getting on with minorities.

"I don't know of a single minority in Britain who is offended by the mention of Christmas. Muslims, Sikhs and Hindus I've spoken to here all join in with it. It is patronising to suggest they're offended.

"Christmas is a celebration of the birth of Jesus Christ and by removing the word Christmas from the the lights I think it erodes Christian values.

"I believe it was easier for me, as an Asian, to argue this case. I believe in multiculturalism and think all faiths should be accepted equally -but not at the expense of Christianity."

Wolverhampton had been one of many councils to abandon traditional celebrations for fear of offending non-Christians.

Yesterday the Mail reported how council chiefs in Havant, Hampshire, have replaced their Christmas lights with a Festival of Lights.

Last month, it was revealed how Lambeth Council in South London had started referring to Christmas lights as winter lights.

Mr Mattu said he hoped the rethink in Wolverhampton, where nearly a quarter of the population in non-Christian, would encourage others to follow suit.

"They should come to their senses and realise they are ignoring Christian values and destroying part of this country's history," he said.

Mr Mattu, whose father served in the British Army, came to England 38 years ago and said his earliest memories of this country were of seeing snow and Christmas lights.

"It was wonderful - very cold but wonderful. I still think it's great to celebrate Christmas in style," he said.

Wolverhampton City Council last night denied it had bowed to pressure to reinstate the word Christmas in its lights and said angels and stars had featured in the previous displays.

Council leader Roger Lawrence said: "We are very pleased with the positive response we have had to this year's Christmas lights.

"Here in Wolverhampton the festive lights have always had a traditional theme and we have made that clearer than ever this Christmas."

Another councillor, Jim Carpenter, said the lights were "an excellent departure from what is happening in other parts of the country".

He added: "We are perhaps seeing the end of extreme political correctness, with Wolverhampton leading the way.

"I speak to people from all communities and they are often aghast at what is being done, supposedly in their name."

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Controversial “politically correct” version of the Bible published in Germany

Berlin, Nov. 09, 2006 (CNA) - A group of 52 biblical “specialists” have released a new version of the Bible in which inclusive language and “political correctness” have replaced some “divisive” teachings of Christianity in order to present a “more just language” for groups such as feminists and homosexuals.

According to the AFP news agency, the new version of the Sacred Scriptures was presented at a book fair in Frankfurt.  Entitled, “The Bible in a More Just Language,” the translation has Jesus no longer referring to God as “Father,” but as “our Mother and Father who are in heaven.”

Likewise, Jesus is no longer referred to as the “Son” but rather as the “child” of God.  The title “Lord” is replaced with “God” or “the Eternal One.”  The devil, however, is still referred to with masculine pronouns.

“One of the great ideas of the Bible is justice.  We have made a translation that does justice to women, Jews, and those who are disregarded,” said Pastor Hanne Koehler, who led the team of translators.

Last December, Matin Dreyer, pastor and founder of the sect “Jesus Freaks,” published the “Volksbibel” (The People’s Bible), in a supposed attempt to make the message of Christianity more “accessible.”  Jesus “returns” instead of resurrects, and multiplies “hamburgers” instead of the fish and loaves.  In the parable of the prodigal son, the younger son squanders his inheritance at dance clubs and ends up “cleaning bathrooms at McDonald’s.”


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