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| Topic Started: Wednesday, 27. September 2006, 22:22 (3,631 Views) | |
| Rose of York | Wednesday, 27. September 2006, 22:22 Post #1 |
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Lets discuss the Sacraments. I am opening a thread for each one. |
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| Derekap | Thursday, 28. September 2006, 16:29 Post #2 |
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At one time "Confessions" were publicised at specific times on specific days. Many parishes provided the Sacrament say on a Thursday Evening, Saturday Morning and Saturday Evening. Now most parishes are saying "On request before and after Mass" or for the half hour before Saturday Evening Mass (If there is one) or even "On Request". In the parish I attend only occasionallhy do I attend the Saturday Evening Mass instead of the Sunday Morning Mass. Reconciliation is advertised for the half hour before the Saturday Evening Mass. I can't say I've noticed anyone attending and the priest is wandering arojund doing odd jobs and talking to people. The only exception is when I specifically asked him to hear my Confession. It seems gone are the days when, particularly on the first Saturday of the month there was a crowd and I was distracted wondering if it was my turn. DerekAp |
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| Patrick | Thursday, 28. September 2006, 17:44 Post #3 |
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In the local parish, confessions times are listed as being after the Mass at 5pm on Sundays. It has always struck me that this seems a bit odd - for example, you need to be in a state of Grace to receive Holy Communion, so therefore, why not have confessions before or after the 11.30am Sunday Mass? :unsure: |
  
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| Rose of York | Thursday, 28. September 2006, 18:06 Post #4 |
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Putting people in the position where they have to identify themselves before confession, ie having to make an appointment or walk up to the priest and ask "Father will you hear my confession" is a breach of Canon Law. The practise is rife. |
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| Patrick | Thursday, 28. September 2006, 18:17 Post #5 |
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Would this possibly have something to do with the requirement that Catholics must at least attend Confession once a year - I think around Lent? |
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| Rose of York | Thursday, 28. September 2006, 18:33 Post #6 |
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In our church the only options are: 1 Approach the priest after Mass, while he is mucking about with papers, having coffee, or having a discussion with a parishioner whilst another parishioner is hovering, with no respect for anybody's privacy, making it clear their discussion cannot wait. Announce, in public, that you want to go to confession. Then, there are two choices. Go into a sacristy smaller than most bathrooms, or kneel down near the altar and tell the busy ladies to stay out of earshot. 2 Make an appointment, that involves travelling 15 miles. The usual Lenten and Advent Services of Reconciliation take place. They are, by order of the powers that be at Diocese, restricted to "Parish Churches" ie one church per cluster of former parishes. Miles away. |
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| Derekap | Thursday, 28. September 2006, 20:09 Post #7 |
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Have you noticed the advertisement at the foot of this page? DerekAp PS When I went back it had disappeared, it was to do with Marriages for Muslims! |
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| Rose of York | Thursday, 28. September 2006, 20:22 Post #8 |
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Sorry about that Derek. There is a programme called googlebot, that searches forums, picks up commonly used words and automatically generates adverts. When the "old forum" started we got a few unwelcome ads. After a while things settle down and googlebot makes less frequent visits. So, there is a possibility of not so welcome ads, we had one yesterday. For comitting the sin of digression, say three Hail Mary's. Back to Confession please, Ladies and Gentlemen. |
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| Emee | Saturday, 7. October 2006, 17:47 Post #9 |
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So why the decline in Confession? I went this afternoon and was reminded of what a therapeutic experience it is. Thankfully if I miss it at my Church I have other times to choose from at Churches not too far away. I'm sure people can't have stopped sinning exactly - so why the downgrade?? Our Lady positively advocated it!! I don't understand... Emee |
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| Rose of York | Saturday, 7. October 2006, 18:32 Post #10 |
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Sin in out. Social problems are in. You see, widesprad vandalism in a town is "a sympton of deprivation" The root causes of afffray and arson are "heightening racial tensions". Babies are neglected because of "insufficient funding for parenting courses". Wives desert their husbands when they "need space". Theft by tax fraud is the Chancellor's fault; he charges too much. Parents are honoured if and when they "earn" respect". Great Grandparents are Social Services responsibility. Not paying bills is not theft, you see, the couple were brainwashed into thinking they needed to "get onto the next step of the housing laddrer" and, on arrival on that step, they were under pressure to "give the house a makeover" because the man on the telly looked at a house like theirs and said "this bathroom has to go." The credit card was the only source of finance, and now the bills roll in. Creditors are not people, they are organisations. Yep, sin is out. Whatever I do or say, is due to outside factors. |
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| Josephine | Saturday, 7. October 2006, 20:23 Post #11 |
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I found this on the site of an American diocese - sorry, cannot remember which one. An Examination of Conscience for Children Did I pay attention at Mass? Have I fooled around in Church? Did I say my prayers every day? Did I say mean things to my mum or dad? Did I always say "Thank you" to people? Am I hard to get along with (during school, at Grandma's, at home?)? Did I do what my mum and dad told me to do? My teacher? Was I lazy around the house? Did I do my chores? Did I hurt other people's feelings by calling them bad names? Have I started fights with my brothers and sisters at home? Have I blamed other people for things I do? Did I get other people into trouble? Do I hit people when I get mad? Have I forgiven people? Or am I holding a grudge? Have I cheated or been unfair in games? Did I refuse to play with someone for no good reason? Was I lazy about my schoolwork? Did I cheat in school? How many times did I lie to my parents? My teachers? My friends? Did I take anything which didn't belong to me? Did I avoid medicine? Did I refuse to eat food I didn't like? I think the above a useful guide. Comments, please. Josephine |
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| Emee | Saturday, 7. October 2006, 20:31 Post #12 |
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Blimey Josephine! I wish we'd had something like that when I was a child and learning how to examine my conscience!! I wonder if there is something similar for adults?? Emee |
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| Derekap | Saturday, 7. October 2006, 20:32 Post #13 |
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Too much talk of personal RIGHTS Too little talk of personal DUTIES and RESONSIBILITIES Too much: "They should do something about it" Too little "Let's do something about it" By many of the people who get themselves in bother. Advice by people who should know better: "Young people who use contraception or the morning after pill are showing sensible social and healthy responsibility" |
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| PJD | Sunday, 8. October 2006, 10:17 Post #14 |
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Confession: I’m not sure Josephine that I like that list. I mean being given to children. Can’t you suggest a less pious/authoritative way? After all most of it is known by instinct as soon as it is committed, and a priest once said to me – confession is not an memory exercise. PJD |
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| Patrick | Sunday, 8. October 2006, 11:28 Post #15 |
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The only part of the Examination of Conscience that I didn't agree with was: 'Did I refuse to eat food that I didn't like?' - children have choices and preference when it comes to food. If they don't like a particular food, then adults shouldn't give it to them and expect them to eat it. |
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