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John Sweeney
Wednesday, 26. August 2009, 15:15
I know , Patrick, but why does it?

John
I suppose you could say John that people around Christ began to realise that there was an "extension " to him that did not happen with other people around.

As I understand it , The "trinity" is central to christian teaching but not in old testament Juadism so it was revealed in those few years that Christ was on earth.

We are made aware of three persons in the writings of the gospels.
"The Word" in and through Christ himself and his actions as a human being of flesh and blood .
He never said he was God but told Peter he was blessed indeed when he(Peter) concluded ,or it was revealed inwardly, that he was "the son of the most high"or as John so eloquently puts it "the word made flesh"

That , to me anyway, is the starting point and from there Christ has only referred to two other persons of divinity.

The father or Godhead of whom he alwys spoke about or to.
And ,at the end, the paraclete (Holy Spirit) who would be with us after he departed and which so very dramatically came true forty days later, at Pentecost, changing people frightened for their lives into the nucleus of the church on earth.

And so, it came to be understood as such from those years .within our very limited awareness of the nature of God.

I do like St Patrick's idea with the shamrock.
All three leaves together with the stem make the shamrock.
Pick off a leaf and hold it up and say is this the shamrock. ?
No, that is a leaf of the shamrock.
Then pick the other two and hold them up with the first and say are these three leaves the shamrock ?
Again no. although you have three leaves they are three separate leaves of the shamrock.

Then the shamrock is the three separate attached together to the life giving stem and all together is the shamrock
Yes!
And that is about as good as it can be explained from what we believe emanated from Christ on the matter of the nature of God.

Why has the shamrock got three leaves ?- well a botanist may answer that one but as far as we are aware a shamrock has three leaves and we recognise it as such !!

Best I can do on the question raised !!
Edited by James, Wednesday, 26. August 2009, 20:27.
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