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Please Please Me Test Pressing Question
Topic Started: Aug 13 2016, 08:08 AM (220 Views)
padesu
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I have a one sided test pressing of the stereo Please please me ( which is genuine beyond doubt) but the stamper instead of being 1G as one would expect is in fact 1 O also it has KT stamped in the centre but the accompanying sleeve has handwritten yex 95-1 with O written beneath it and the date 16/8/63 .
The history is that an employee of the Hayes pressing plant used to frequent a local newsagents where he befriended the owner and on hearing it was the owners son's birthday gifted him the record !!!
It seems unusual to me to have an O stamper on a test pressing as that would normally be the fifth stamper although I have never seen 1 O on a side two on a stock copy ?? anyone got any ideas on this ?
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Weren't all stampers tested ? A faulty stamper would mean a huge waste of 2,000-4,000 LPs......
One of the early LPs had a faulty stamper, I believe it was AHDN and even the newspapers wrote about it at the time. So it is not surprising imo to see an O stamper test pressing. Yo can't test the mothers so the stampers have to be tested.
Stamper 1O apparentely has been reported for a stereo pressing, but not for the gold label (which fits with the later date on your copy's sleeve compared to the release date of the LP). See http://www.beatlebay.co.uk/stereo.html
Very interesting LP ! We'd love to see pictures.....
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servi,Aug 13 2016
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Weren't all stampers tested ? A faulty stamper would mean a huge waste of 2,000-4,000 LPs......
One of the early LPs had a faulty stamper, I believe it was AHDN and even the newspapers wrote about it at the time. So it is not surprising imo to see an O stamper test pressing. Yo can't test the mothers so the stampers have to be tested.
Stamper 1O apparentely has been reported for a stereo pressing, but not for the gold label (which fits with the later date on your copy's sleeve compared to the release date of the LP). See http://www.beatlebay.co.uk/stereo.html
Very interesting LP ! We'd love to see pictures.....

Not that I'm aware of - thought it was the matrix that was tested as I know in the case of Deccas each new matrix had 1B in every case ( IB of course was first letter in buckingham ) and of course there would be lots more test pressings than there are if each stamper was tested and other stampers would be found and none have to my knowledge hence the question.
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The matrix (father) can not be tested since it is a negative. The subsequent mother could and would be tested, as it would be used to generate several stampers (for example 50 stampers or so per mother). The stampers could not be tested directly but each gave rise to >1500 records and I would be surprised if stampers would not have been tested by making a test pressing. In fact that is what a test pressing is, right ? Most of these test pressings would NOT leave the EMI factory. Only a few hundred would have been made compared to hundreds of thousands of commercial LPs. They should not have left the factory and most haven't and that is why you don't find them.
I have always regarded test pressings as standard pressings with only a different label to indicate they were made for testing purposes. The test pressings I own (only from 1970s-2000s) have mostly identical matrix markings as the commercial records.
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servi,Aug 13 2016
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The matrix (father) can not be tested since it is a negative. The subsequent mother could and would be tested, as it would be used to generate several stampers (for example 50 stampers or so per mother). The stampers could not be tested directly but each gave rise to >1500 records and I would be surprised if stampers would not have been tested by making a test pressing. In fact that is what a test pressing is, right ? Most of these test pressings would NOT leave the EMI factory. Only a few hundred would have been made compared to hundreds of thousands of commercial LPs. They should not have left the factory and most haven't and that is why you don't find them.
I have always regarded test pressings as standard pressings with only a different label to indicate they were made for testing purposes. The test pressings I own (only from 1970s-2000s) have mostly identical matrix markings as the commercial records.

agreed test pressings are usually just like standard pressings, this copy is clearly a test made from later in 1963, and this would explain the 1O stamper, the KT tax stamp and that date. And since all these three things are consistent with each other it certainly sounds genuine.

The real mystery is why it was made but these things did happen but usually only on re-issues so it is a bit odd...
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