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Beatles Revolver Uk Variant Label
Topic Started: Aug 7 2016, 09:09 PM (979 Views)
namralos
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TR stands for
Tootsie Roll
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Tuesday/Thursday
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Tom Riddle
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The Rock.

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socorro
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. . . Teddy Roosevelt . . . Top Round . . . Tape Recording . . . True Religion . . . Timber Roof . . . Tubercular Rats . . . Tomato Relish
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socorro,Aug 11 2016
07:12 PM
. . . Teddy Roosevelt . . . Top Round . . . Tape Recording . . . True Religion . .  . Timber Roof . . . Tubercular Rats . .  . Tomato Relish

. . . The Rutles . . .
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muffmasterh,Aug 12 2016
01:17 AM
However Jae if anybody then asks me what a TR font is I am going to refer them direct to you.

BTW did not also somebody say that the Sans Serif font term used was also incorrect and that it should be Serif, can't recall but i'm sure somebody said that way back.

TR = Times Roman. Merely Times New Roman without the New. ;)

And serif ain't a font, it's the name given to the small lines added to base characters, like those on the Times Roman typeface. So, for example, Times Roman is a serif typeface.

Sans serif means a typeface/font that doesn't have the elaborate stroke ends, like Helvetica.

While EMI UK labels with serif typefaces tend to be limited to Times Roman (during the sixties, a bit different in the fifties), the opposite is not the case. Harrison & Sons used a variety of sans serif typefaces including Trade Gothic, Metroblack, Gill Sans, Helvetica, Futura etc etc. So you can't just call a label with sans serif typeface "Arial" or whatever. But you guys pick this up when you refer to such fonts as "chubby" or "thin" or whatever. To this end, each typeface is different, but each typeface is sans serif. Thus it is accurate to refer to such labels as having "a sans serif typeface". But the typeface itself will have a different name.

Oh, and "Roman" is a kind of type, it's not a typeface, so it's use is just as inaccurate as "TNR". ;)

Generally none of this is a problem; most people will understand colloquial usage - it's only when fonts are being specifically referred to.
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Jae,Aug 14 2016
01:01 AM
muffmasterh,Aug 12 2016
01:17 AM
However Jae if anybody then asks me what a TR font is I am going to refer them direct to you.

BTW did not also somebody say that the Sans Serif font term used was also incorrect and that it should be Serif, can't recall but i'm sure somebody said that way back.

TR = Times Roman. Merely Times New Roman without the New. ;)

And serif ain't a font, it's the name given to the small lines added to base characters, like those on the Times Roman typeface. So, for example, Times Roman is a serif typeface.

Sans serif means a typeface/font that doesn't have the elaborate stroke ends, like Helvetica.

While EMI UK labels with serif typefaces tend to be limited to Times Roman (during the sixties, a bit different in the fifties), the opposite is not the case. Harrison & Sons used a variety of sans serif typefaces including Trade Gothic, Metroblack, Gill Sans, Helvetica, Futura etc etc. So you can't just call a label with sans serif typeface "Arial" or whatever. But you guys pick this up when you refer to such fonts as "chubby" or "thin" or whatever. To this end, each typeface is different, but each typeface is sans serif. Thus it is accurate to refer to such labels as having "a sans serif typeface". But the typeface itself will have a different name.

Oh, and "Roman" is a kind of type, it's not a typeface, so it's use is just as inaccurate as "TNR". ;)

Generally none of this is a problem; most people will understand colloquial usage - it's only when fonts are being specifically referred to.

NOW I am even more confused lol

ok so I can't call it TNR and i can't call it Roman ( sorry Frank ) trouble is if i call it TR very few people will have a clue what TR means so how do i get around that. i could call it Times Roman, but on things like ebay strap lines there often just wont be enough characters for that

Yes like i said i remember something about sans ( aka withouut ) serif not being a font, trouble is if you go into word document there is a font there called MICROSOFT SANS SERIF. So i guess that font is Microsoft.

So what then Jae is the name of the standard non TR font used from lare 64, the most common font used that the collecting world mistakenly names as sans serif. Its sans serif but thats not the actual font name, i'd be keen to know what it is, it must have a name.



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Predominantly (Linotype) Trade Gothic Bold Condensed. Year is Trade Gothic Condensed.

Also, keep in mind that a label will usually consist of multiple typefaces. Catalogue number, title, tracks, artist can all be set using different typefaces, serif and/or non serif.
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Jae,Aug 14 2016
07:29 AM
Predominantly (Linotype) Trade Gothic Bold Condensed. Year is Trade Gothic Condensed.

Also, keep in mind that a label will usually consist of multiple typefaces. Catalogue number, title, tracks, artist can all be set using different typefaces, serif and/or non serif.

yes i am talking mainly the track listing element, so Trade Gothic covers ?
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Jae
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Yes it does - Trade Gothic is the typeface; Trade Gothic Bold Condensed is the font.
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Jae,Aug 15 2016
08:46 AM
Yes it does - Trade Gothic is the typeface; Trade Gothic Bold Condensed is the font.

and presumably thats a typeface/font without serifs so would Trade Gothic sans serif be an acceptable usage ?

I'm basically tying to incorporate terms that collectors/buyers will still recognise but also retain an element of accuracy
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muffmasterh,Aug 15 2016
11:42 AM
Jae,Aug 15 2016
08:46 AM
Yes it does - Trade Gothic is the typeface; Trade Gothic Bold Condensed is the font.

and presumably thats a typeface/font without serifs so would Trade Gothic sans serif be an acceptable usage ?

I'm basically tying to incorporate terms that collectors/buyers will still recognise but also retain an element of accuracy

I'd call it TNR in the title (regardless of the fact that that is wrong) and explain the font in the listing. Potential buyer will only know what you mean if you use TNR. The font resembles TNR and has been called TNR by many sellers and they probably will continue to do so.

Also:
The 1982 mono LPs were not from 1982 but they are generally known as "82 monos" and probably will be called that by 99% of collectors.
The White Album is not the name of the Beatles' 1968 double LP.
America is not a correct term for the USA (said my geography teacher but everyone ignored here).
A Please please me fifth pressing actually is the fifth label variant, not the fifth pressing run.
An LP is not the same as an "album", that term was used for a bunch of 78 rpms collected in an album.
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Yes Sevi - Correct on all accounts

America is not the USA
USA is a corporation registered in Costa Rica
'The United States FOR America' became 'The United States OF America' after the war of Independence - where the 'Treaty of Paris' agreed that all land and property would remain with the Crown of England - and thereafter the 3 reserve banks that have been created (the Last being the Federal Reserve) have all been raping the people and the land of America by enslaving the people into debt.
The IRS is controlled by the Crown and Bank of England
The people have been CAPITALIZED as legal CITIZENS (All Caps) of USA not free lawful citizens (Lower case) of their individual states.

basically we believe what we are told and if it contradicts what the education system (programming system) tells us we lash out instead of picking a book up to find the truth.

This may be fanciful and misguided research - as is the following

and Paul Mccartney is William Campbell (Faul)
(SG:T) Pepper is 1875 when turned upside down - AC birth
1985 (on New Picture Sleeve) is S:GT when turned upside down - strange faces on there too - one maybe AC

far too many stories to cover here - but when 9/11 appears in a story (McCartney's car accident) its worth reading a little further and scratching that scar(ab)
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All this TNR ACDC ABC SS TR and R is getting confusing, I think we should stick to longhand here!

Admiral Halsey!!! :lol:
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T REX
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