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| Tweet Topic Started: Jul 25 2016, 11:35 AM (764 Views) | |
| servi | Jul 26 2016, 06:51 PM Post #16 |
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Hot stampers ?? You mean white hot stampers, super hot stampers and super white hot stampers ?? BIG bussiness: http://www.better-records.com/dept.aspx?dept_id=42&so=6 $599 for a repressing of a Beatles record, because it is a white hot stamper and you get a load of bullsh@@ for free on the website as well..... But on the other hand, there seems to be a market for this (at that price the guy only needs to sell 5 records per month to make a living because at a car boot sale these records sell for 2.99 or something). And it is far better than someone who sells counterfeits. |
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| muffmasterh | Jul 26 2016, 08:12 PM Post #17 |
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omg !!! its geesdee mark 2 |
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| socorro | Jul 27 2016, 12:22 AM Post #18 |
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Can somebody explain in simple words what a "white hot stamper" is? Never heard this term. |
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| namralos | Jul 27 2016, 01:12 AM Post #19 |
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A "hot stamper" means that someone has decided that they really like the sound. That guy's copy of Abbey Road with a "white hot stamper" says... "NOTE: The first side starts off quite noisy but it quiets down after the first two tracks. " So wait! "Something" is NOISY. Sorry, bub. I'm not buying a copy of the album where "Something" is noisy. Especially not for that kind of cash. |
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| Jae | Jul 27 2016, 09:26 AM Post #20 |
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But. It's. A. White. Hot. Stamper. Tom says so. More likely it's a random US 1970s pressing he's trying to offload... |
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| muffmasterh | Jul 27 2016, 02:35 PM Post #21 |
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lol u could not make this stuff up. Somebody decided a while back that a single or double letter UK stamper was a " hot stamper " and it stuck for a while, trouble is if that disc was struck near the end of that stamper run then surely its no longer as hot and there is no way of telling that as far as i know. in other words its all " utter b*ll*x " |
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| socorro | Jul 27 2016, 04:50 PM Post #22 |
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Now I understand. It has nothing to do with the actual manufacturing process, it simply signifies that it is a bog standard copy that the seller thinks sounds especially good. I guess some deep pockets are willing to pay hundreds of dollars for such copies. Seems a bit over the top to a mere mortal like me. |
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| voxish | Aug 1 2016, 02:05 PM Post #23 |
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Statistically the more data you have the better the correlation to whatever graph so if there were fewer stereos the fit should be less certain not more. However what's this graph trying to prove? I'm guessing the decoding stampers from G to DDD? Both have a pretty much 1-1 correlation fit with more outliers on mono than stereo so I'm not sure any meaningful conclusion can be drawn. I'm guessing the outliers are simply transcription errors (it's hard to read some stamps, M's and H's especially get mis-stamped) and also relate to how well organised the machine operators/supervisors in picking the stampers for each side. |
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| servi | Aug 1 2016, 08:22 PM Post #24 |
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Thank you for your comments voxish, but I am not sure if you understand the graph. More data points will not lead to a better correlation. It will only make the correlation more reliable (i.e. the confidence interval will be smaller and the p-value will reach statistical significance). For example, if I plot the stamper on side 1 versus the LP owner's age there would be no correlation at all (correlation coefficient almost 0.00), even if I did that for a million copies. There simply would be dots all over the place instead of the dots being on a nice line. What the graph shows is that in general the stampers for both sides were used subsequently instead of picking a random stamper from the pool. Muffmaster is right when he says that for the stereos the correlation is better. They pressed far less copies and had less stampers prepared and pressed less copies simultaneously. The effect is even more pronounced for LPs that sold in very low quantities like Two Virgins or Life with the Lions, where stampers for side 1 and 2 correlate extremely well because of the small numbers pressed. For the mono Pepper the correlation is less because hundreds of thousands were pressed, with hundreds of stampers being made and several presses running at the same time. To my knowledge no one has done such a graph for other Beatles records so we can only assume that the people at the pressing plant organised things in a similar way for other records. I would not be surprised if IWTHYH would show no correlation at all..... The reason why I started with this was to correlate stamper numbers to label variations but there is too many variations and I lost interest in the project... |
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