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| Rubber Soul German Odeon 84 066 Throug | |
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| meaning-less | Apr 1 2016, 06:46 PM Post #1 |
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I have a German Odeon issue of Rubber Soul on the SMO 84 066 White label. This one has the misprint "Throug" on Side 2. The matrix numbers are: Side 1 YEX 178-2 Side 2 YEX 179-1. There is NO "MANUFACTURED IN GERMANY" in the run-out. The pressing ring on both sides measures 1/2" out from the spindle hole. The "ST 33" print at the bottom of the labels show the 3's with curved tops. (as printed here.) The rim print begins with the word "URHEBER." ZTOX-5613 is printed to the right on the labels. On the left side of the labels "GEMA" is present in thin print with YEX-178 and YEX-179 indented under the GEMA box. The cover has the Odeon symbol at the bottom right, front cover with the catalog number/letters SMO 84 066 printed under the symbol. The Odeon symbol is located at the bottom left, back cover with the catalog letters/numbers SMO 84 066 printed at the top right. The print at the bottom of the back cover begins: Diese Schallplatte kann mit jedem..... I'd like to know more about this particular pressing. Thank You. |
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| RockySassoon | Apr 1 2016, 11:41 PM Post #2 |
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Hi there, it's the second variation (thin GEMA print and round 33) of the second label - the first label having the Alle-rim print. The "throug" error is quite common. The Urheber law was introduced on 01.01.1966 as Servi pointed out in another thread, so your label was probably printed after they had used up all old stock of the Alle-labels - maybe from spring/summer 1966 onwards until the 74 numbers were introduced (probably autumn 1966). I have no evidence, but I think, the Urheber/84 combination is far more common than the Alle/84 one. |
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| meaning-less | Apr 3 2016, 12:57 PM Post #3 |
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Rocky, did the label print go directly from ALLE 84 to URHEBER 73? If so, can the URHEBER 84 variation be considered a transition label? Or. I am confusing the issue? |
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| RockySassoon | Apr 3 2016, 08:02 PM Post #4 |
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Well, as the Alle-Urheber change came before the change of the 8- to the 7- prefix, you could maybe call it a transitional label, but in the case of RS, there are many of those around. I think all other "transitional" labels are rarer to different degrees. We had an interesting discussion in this thread - not that long ago: http://z10.invisionfree.com/BeatlesCollect...topic=2922&st=0 |
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| AurelianDE | Apr 5 2016, 10:05 PM Post #5 |
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Same here! It also seems that all 'Alle ...' copies came with the first label, that is the label with 'flat-top' 33s at the bottom. That label has a larger SMO (the S intersects with the pressing ring). The left and right strokes of the letter M are vertical on that label. The SMO 84... with 'Urheber-...' rim appear in both label styles, and that is also true for the SMO 74... copies. (I've seen only two of these 4 variants and take the information from the Watzek-discography which, alas, includes some computer-generated label scans.) The second label style is that with the rounded 33 and a smaller red SMO-number. The outer strokes of the M in SMO are not parallel but rise and fall at an angle. Some attention should be paid to the small print on the rear panel of the sleeve. Both texts beginn with 'Diese Schallplatte ...', but the interesting bit is the second last sentence: 'Das Überspielen unserer Schallplatten sowie das Mitschneiden von Sendungen unserer Schallplatten auf Band oder Draht, auch zum privaten Gebrauch, ist verboten.' That is the wording that goes along with the 'Alle...' labels. It says, like the rim text, that making copies on tape is illegal, even for private use. The underlined part of the sentence on later copies now reads ' ... zu gewerblichen Zwecken ...' which means 'for commercial purposes'. And that is exactly the change in copyright that is reflected in the 'Urheber-...' labels, which explicitly state that private copies don't constitute an infringement of the law. All copies of the cover with the new rectangular logo with Odeon dome and EMI side by side (bottom left of back cover) have the new text. It seems, however, that so many sleeves of the first variety were in stock that a considerable number of 'Urheber-...' copies came with the old sleeve. (Nobody noticed the contradiction at the time, or bothered.) I have not seen the oval Odeon logo in combination with the newer small print. Does your copy have the earlier text? |
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