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White Album Uk White Vinyl; an inner question
Topic Started: Mar 1 2016, 01:38 PM (507 Views)
muffmasterh
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this may sound odd coming from the self appointed inner sleeve guru but I've just aquired my first copy of this, does anybody know for sure the correct inner ?

As far as I am aware these were not pressed by emi so I am pretty sure emi inners are out.

I do have all the other coloured vinyls so i will check on their inners, my presumption would be that the inners should be the same.

I bought my yellow MMT when it came out so at least i know thats unmolested at least
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i may have answered my own question, my AR and LIB come with a square inner with a die cut hole, however the " notch " is reversed, ie its on what you would call the back side.

One of the inners on my new WA acquisition is the same reversed die cut.........i think thats a slam dunk !
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My AR and MMT also have that type of inner, so that must be the one that came with these releases indeed. If you can find out which factory used these inners we may finally get to know where these contract pressings were manufactured.
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servi,Mar 1 2016
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My AR and MMT also have that type of inner, so that must be the one that came with these releases indeed. If you can find out which factory used these inners we may finally get to know where these contract pressings were manufactured.

yes, sadly it is such a plain inner its not easily identifiable, its subtleties are easy missed, but now i am on the lookout !

its an inner more associated with the likes of transatlantic from the 60's, its not the same but at first view they look very similar.
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Where were these WA white vinyl versions pressed ? All copies seem to have the large pressing ring, and the experimental blue vinyl version also has that ring. The label looks different than the coloured MMT, LIB and AR (which are from a yet unidentified pressing plant). The WA reminds me a bit of a CBS pressing but does anyone know more about these ?? A similar blue album label with large ring also exist although that copy may have a broader ring (posted on facebook in the Apple Records group today, see below).

Pictures of white and blue WA:http://www.applerecords.nl/UK%20Apple%20Al...e%20Beatles.pdf

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servi,Sep 4 2016
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Where were these WA white vinyl versions pressed ? All copies seem to have the large pressing ring, and the experimental blue vinyl version also has that ring. The label looks different than the coloured MMT, LIB and AR (which are from a yet unidentified pressing plant). The WA reminds me a bit of a CBS pressing but does anyone know more about these ?? A similar blue album label with large ring also exist although that copy may have a broader ring (posted on facebook in the Apple Records group today, see below).

Pictures of white and blue WA:http://www.applerecords.nl/UK%20Apple%20Al...e%20Beatles.pdf

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i have no info on these but i suspect they were sent to a speciality plant ( possibly europe ? ) who pressed coloured vinyls and not a main label. Having said that i think the red and blue vinyls may well have been pressed by emi, but the others yellow green white look very different

The blue album above is interested but if it is on black vinyl i doubt it has anything to do with the coloureds, it actually reminds me of the unidentified oldies pressing which may or may not have a west indies origin.
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very similar in size and depth to the post 2000 dutch pressings of Beatles LP's
and yes Henry, only from memory, similar to the 'Oldies' contract pressing which was a 2 Box Gramophone rim.
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Yes, the Dutch Record Industry plant pressed some Beatles records around 2001-2003, but the WA was much earlier. The blue album indeed seems unrelated. Was the white WA released at the same time as LIB, MMT and LIB on coloured vinyl ? Quite strange that the labels are different.
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too much mixed facts here.

First were the colored red and blue EMI pressings, these came mainly in the PCSPR covers with sticker.

For later versions which came in the normal PCSP covers I have found the following info (don't ask me were):

Note this the 1978 red vinyl pressing
It is a contract re pressing by Orlake in Dagenham Essex and was an extra run to meet the demands
ALL 1st run red vinyl pressings were done in-house by EMI at Blythe Road Hayes.

Also MMT, AR and LIB were pressed at this plant then.

The white vinyl WA is probably from the same plant ( done by a different machine). You can find lookalike labels on discogs under Orlake pressing plant. It seems they had many different pressing machines.

The dish label copies of the black vinyl blue album maybe be a dutch contract (or an original irish pressing), have ask the guy in fb group to tell us the matrix, but no answer yet.
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Garfield,Sep 5 2016
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too much mixed facts here.

First were the colored red and blue EMI pressings, these came mainly in the PCSPR covers with sticker.

For later versions which came in the normal PCSP covers I have found the following info (don't ask me were):

Note this the 1978 red vinyl pressing
It is a contract re pressing by Orlake in Dagenham Essex and was an extra run to meet the demands
ALL 1st run red vinyl pressings were done in-house by EMI at Blythe Road Hayes.

Also MMT, AR and LIB were pressed at this plant then.

The white vinyl WA is from a different plant (or done by a different machine)

The dish label copies of the black vinyl blue album maybe be a dutch contract (or an original irish pressing), have ask the guy in fb group to tell us the matrix, but no answer yet.

yes holland is another good candidate for that blue label, there are imagines that resemble that press.

like i said i was fairly certain the red blues coloureds were pressed by emi, i think they may even have emi mother stampers.

However you say the others bar the WA were also pressed by EMI or did you mean Orlake

If EMI that surprises me but without checking they should have emi mother stampers too. Also they do not come in EMI inners.

I think the date for all these was 1978, although they were not i think done all at the same time but rolled out.

The red and blues may be earlier say 1976 but my memory says 1978 cos it was the punk/new wave movement that really got the coloured vinyl thing going and they were done on the back of that, of the others i think MMT or the WA may have been the first of them, with AR and LIB following.

again from memory i think the uptake of the red blue coloureds probably resulted in the other coloureds being rolled out, emi loved a successful gimmick.
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muffmasterh,Sep 5 2016
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However you say the others bar the WA were also pressed by EMI or did you mean Orlake

No, I mean Orlake.
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Garfield,Sep 5 2016
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muffmasterh,Sep 5 2016
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However you say the others bar the WA were also pressed by EMI or did you mean Orlake

No, I mean Orlake.

ah yes i am more comfortable with that...
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Thanks Garfield, that is the info I was looking for. Never knew about Orlake...
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Garfield,Sep 5 2016
07:49 AM
too much mixed facts here.

First were the colored red and blue EMI pressings, these came mainly in the PCSPR covers with sticker.

For later versions which came in the normal PCSP covers I have found the following info (don't ask me were):

Note this the 1978 red vinyl pressing
It is a contract re pressing by Orlake in Dagenham Essex and was an extra run to meet the demands
ALL 1st run red vinyl pressings were done in-house by EMI at Blythe Road Hayes.

Also MMT, AR and LIB were pressed at this plant then.

The white vinyl WA is probably from the same plant ( done by a different machine). You can find lookalike labels on discogs under Orlake pressing plant. It seems they had many different pressing machines.

The dish label copies of the black vinyl blue album maybe be a dutch contract (or an original irish pressing), have ask the guy in fb group to tell us the matrix, but no answer yet.

I have the coloured and stickered Red and Blue albums in pristine condition (I bought them from a well-known seller in Sweden, I forget his name). How can I tell where they were pressed?
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