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Uk Tri-center?
Topic Started: Jan 21 2016, 06:43 AM (636 Views)
socorro
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Maybe this is a well-documented and common variation, but it is news to me.

AYNIL, with tri-center. Made in Gt. Britain. Gramophone rim print, anti-slip knurled perimeter ridge, SIUK.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/262243555161?rmvSB=true

I've only seen tri-center discs for singles and EPs from South Africa and Southern Rhodesia.
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servi
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That is A modified sold center pressing (unofficial), possibly a hom made thing.They appear every now and then and AYNIL is the only single that exists.
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Mike
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Wouldn't explain why there's no letter stampers in the deadwax though, if it's a homebrew thing. The ridges in the triangle itself make me think this might be legit, but a foreign country just pressing a run off with a back of UK labels or something.
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jimboo
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Was a genuine Tri with SIUK label a few years ago, our expert Frank reckoned it was an island press with UK labels.
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Mike
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I've got it on watch but the fact it has a reserve means that he wants at least £50 for it, so I won't be bidding.
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F O T H
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I think it looks pretty neat. Popsike has one sold (clearly a different copy) in 2006 for £113. Surely, scarcer than any other contract press, genuine or not.
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muffmasterh
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the no stampers is interesting but it certainly looks like a solid that has been crudely " adapted "

whatever it is it is certainly not a UK pressing, if it is a foreign with UK labels then that makes it more interesting but i am very sceptical to put it mildly.

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muffmasterh,Jan 21 2016
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the no stampers is interesting but it certainly looks like a solid that has been crudely " adapted "

Why do you say "crudely" Henry, it seems perfectly cut, with the indents where the centre points meet the disc. It really does't work with the SIUK statement though, does it?
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F O T H,Jan 21 2016
08:26 PM
muffmasterh,Jan 21 2016
08:04 PM
the no stampers is interesting but it certainly looks like a solid that has been crudely " adapted "

Why do you say "crudely" Henry, it seems perfectly cut, with the indents where the centre points meet the disc. It really does't work with the SIUK statement though, does it?

to me it looks crude, especially around the bottom area
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jimboo
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Triangle sides not equal giving different shaped cut out areas.


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socorro
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At first blush, I have to agree that it looks very neatly cut.

Those cutouts look like they would be extremely hard to get so clean and true without special equipment. I seriously question whether a one-off counterfeiter could produce perfectly smooth, perfectly true circular cuts, not to mention the uniform offsets where the center meets the body of the disc.

This is MUCH trickier than the typical UK jukebox dink.

I think the most likely explanation is legit foreign pressing with UK labels.

I could believe it was a bulk-produced pirate disc, but why bother with (1) a pop-out tri-center, and (2) a knurled ant-skid ridge?
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Together with the folks on this group, Bruce and I found a total of 2 copies between 2009 and 2011. As far as we could tell, they certainly LOOKED like punched-out copies of solid-center singles. We could not tell who made them.

One theory was that maybe they were pressed in the UK for distribution in another country. Another theory is that mothers were sent to another country for distribution, and in that other country they were given push-out centers as well. EMI _was_ distributing push-out copies of AYNIL in the UK, and so few copies are known that we were uncertain why they would have such a small number of contract singles made.
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Xex606
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Could this not be a copy made in Rhodesia with uk labels to get round sanctions so it could be sold in the rest of Africa.just a thought,if that were the case that would make it a very interesting disc
Both from a collector point of view and a political one also.
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namralos
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But these exist in the usual SPD series:

http://www.popsike.com/THE-BEATLES-ULTRA-R...0652921035.html

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Xex606
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To me it looks like a legit tri centre don't think it's home made,just trying to figure out a country that was still on tri centre so late in the day so to speak and Rhodesia came to mind.
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