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Beatles 71-74 Uk Albums Emerald Contract Press?
Topic Started: Feb 12 2014, 01:16 PM (4,010 Views)
servi
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rsinige,Feb 16 2014
04:23 PM
This is the label of the Pepper in the "Nairobi" sleeve, the disc is a standard UK one with correct emi stampers.

Indeed. Extra SIUK dot alert !!
What speaks against my Kenya LP theory is that the singles had that country mentioned, but the "false export LPs" don't, while the Love songs and 20 Golden hits LPs have "Kenya" again. On the other hand, the singles may have been pressed earlier ('60s).
Also everything is based on only a handful of copies that surfaced thus far and stickers on sleeves, although after seeing your HJ copy, rsinige, I am 99% convinced....
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One thing I will say Servi is that the oldies vinyl is much more lighter than the HJ which is quite heavy and the outer ridges are different, the oldies being shallower, less prominent.

PS: there's also an export of Ringo's sentimental journey, can't find a pic yet!
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rsinige,Feb 16 2014
04:37 PM
One thing I will say Servi is that the oldies vinyl is much more lighter than the HJ which is quite heavy and the outer ridges are different, the oldies being shallower, less prominent.

Thanks ! The theory still stands ;) Except that we haven't compared to Associated Sound or Sapra Ltd pressings, the other companies that Jae mentioned, and we haven't explored the Uganda possibility...
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THERE is an export McCartney too...
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ignore my last post i see the macca has been posted already !
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And there's a Sentimental Journey as well, on Parlophone PPCS
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yes andrew listed one once......
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Those singles with the prominently raised centres look like Associated Sound pressings (at least here on my mobile phone).

But who pressed the singles may not be the same as who pressed the LPs.

PS: I'll answer the other questions when I get home later.
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servi,Feb 16 2014
04:15 PM
G&L,Feb 16 2014
03:41 PM
Now this is a great thread and getting better all the time. Please keep sending.

Kenya Columbia mispressing.....

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The singles confirm what Jae noted: Manufactured under license in Kenya

Wow, that is amazing.
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Sorry, forgot about this.
servi,Feb 16 2014
09:17 PM
Was Assanand a pressing plant or solely a distributor ?

Both.

servi,Feb 16 2014
09:17 PM
Furthermore, Rsinige's HJ LP proofs that the record was sold in Kenya and Uganda. Jae, do you have any info on pressing facilities in Uganda ?? Or do we have to assume that Uganda imported records from Kenya ? What about Uganda Record Agencies Ltd (URA) in Kampala ?

For EMI, at least, all records distributed in East Africa (inc Uganda) were pressed in Kenya. I suspect though, like with everywhere else, there may have been exceptions that affected various pressing runs from time to time.
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servi,Feb 16 2014
09:29 PM
Maybe I misunderstand your comment, muffmaster, but my theory now is 1) Kenyan pressings with UK export labels, 2) Barbados pressings with UK export labels or UK standard  labels that were not printed in the UK however (these labels have poor paper quality and a lighter colour). These pressings have the small label rim and 3) Jamaican (???) false Decca pressings with UK export labels or UK standard labels printed in the UK.  These labels have the deep groove.
The conclusion, which is astonishing IMO, is that many UK export pressings are not export pressings at all but actually are foreign pressings; and that a country like Kenya, of which we previously assumed it never pressed Beatles LPs with the exception of compilations, released Beatles records after all.

I believe the Barbados labels were created in Barbados. To me, given the quality of the base text versus the "Made in Barbados" text, I would bet that Barbados took a sample label from the UK (labels would be included with reference copies of the LPs sent with the tapes/metal parts) and used it as the base for their paste-up. The paste-up artist would have added the "Made in Barbados" text from a separate typesetting process, with the text being hot metal typeset on a Linotype (or similar) composing machine and printed to paper.

The resulting composed "mechanical" would have been photographed, with the negative used by the printer.

This was the basic method for how all companies worldwide made labels during the 1960s (the only difference here being that Barbados used an existing label as its base, rather than typesetting a label locally).
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Jae,Feb 20 2014
07:47 AM
Sorry, forgot about this.
servi,Feb 16 2014
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Was Assanand a pressing plant or solely a distributor ?

Both.

servi,Feb 16 2014
09:17 PM
Furthermore, Rsinige's HJ LP proofs that the record was sold in Kenya and Uganda. Jae, do you have any info on pressing facilities in Uganda ?? Or do we have to assume that Uganda imported records from Kenya ? What about Uganda Record Agencies Ltd (URA) in Kampala ?

For EMI, at least, all records distributed in East Africa (inc Uganda) were pressed in Kenya. I suspect though, like with everywhere else, there may have been exceptions that affected various pressing runs from time to time.

The URA single from Uganda shown above looks identical to the Kenyan pressings, so that fits with what you are saying, Jae.
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Talking about ridges, are they common on Parlophone Philippines pressings?

Parlogram's selling some at the moment.
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Just checked my Philippines copies of WTB and Help. They both have prominent ridges about 2/3 of the way out from the hole. They are pre-PARI copies. PARI is the acronym for Philippines Association of the Record Industry, founded in February 1972.

The LPs Andrew is selling have the same ridge, but with the exception of Oldies they all have the PARI logo on the labels and sleeve, making them post-February 1972 copies.
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Do these rings mean something?
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