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Beatles 71-74 Uk Albums Emerald Contract Press?
Topic Started: Feb 12 2014, 01:16 PM (4,006 Views)
Mike
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Anybody else ever seen one of these? I have two, this Sgt. Pepper and one other album I *think* is With the Beatles (can't remember off hand, currently at work).

Has anybody ever seen these Emerald contract presses before?

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Bigger pic - http://i.imgur.com/fyXAzy2.jpg
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Mike
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Just discovered an old discussion that we had on this site before regarding, surprise, my WTB copy!

http://z10.invisionfree.com/BeatlesCollect...hp?showtopic=64
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servi
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WOW !! Never seen that one before. I am a Sgt Pepper LP collector, so let me know should you ever decide to sell this copy !!!
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muffmasterh
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yes the old topic was revived a few days ago, great to see a pepper, did we ever find out who emerald were, it rings a bell.....
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And here is a disussion about a similar Rubber soul: http://z10.invisionfree.com/BeatlesCollect...pic=108&st=1950
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Emerald contract pressing. Contract pressing for Northern Ireland was manufactured by Emerald Records. Emerald, a subsidiary of Vogue Records in Belfast, Northern Ireland. This is confirmed by machine stamp of the manufacturer’s name on side 2.

just found this info on discogs.might jog your memory Henry.
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This is the record described

http://thebeatles-collection.com/wordpress...phone-pcs-3045/
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muffmasterh
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fantastic thank you !!
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Mike
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Looks like thebeatles-collection used my WTB photos on that page.

Thanks for the info, folks. It's interesting to see just how unknown this contract pressing is!
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Mike
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I'm not sure why it'd be a contract pressing for Northern Ireland though as the label says "Made in Gt. Britain' and not 'Made in Ireland'. Unless it was just a generic GB label for all of the UK. An old thought I did have was maybe they were also contracted during the 'oil crisis' when Pathe Marconi were also pressing a number.
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Northern Ireland is in Great Britain :D
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Mike
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I only got a C in AS Level Geography, so I'm probably off here, but I always assumed that Gt. Britain was just the mainland (Scotland, Wales and England) whereas the United Kingdom was both Gt. Britain and Northern Ireland.

You wouldn't think I lived here, would you! =p
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acytally it is a mute technical point, N Ireland is not Gt Britain but it is part of the United Kingdom, our records should really have stated made in UK, as the apples do, but since they do not N. Ireland is excluded.as it is geographically part of the island of Ireland and a part of the British isles, but politically it is not part of Ireland but part of the United Kingdom but not part of Great Britain which itseif is the other part of the United Kingdom.

My own view is that it is a contract pressing just as any other UK or GB companies would be, but the made on great Britain is wrong in the same way that the pathe marconi's or even those Jamaican pressings are wrong to state made in GT Britain, netherless they are also both regarded by us as contact pressings ( which the French ones definately were but the Jamaican ones probably were not ) .

So i am happy to regard these as another contract pressing even if they were meant only for the domestic NI market, or maybe even export to the republic.

The labels would indicate that these predate the oil crisis and the production issues at Hayes...there are a couple of other contracts that also date earlier, to around 1971/2, namely the 2 box oldies one with the decca style ridge which i think could be another West indies Job, they do not state the country of manufacture but the labels are clearly copied from the UK ones although the print quality is not as High so they are not UK prints like the earlier Jamaican's were....
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I'm not familiar with Jamaican LPs sporting Made in Gt. Britain labels, but I've seen Barbados LPs with such labels.

The Barbados LPs were not contract presses, they were local presses for distribution in the West Indies region that are verified as using UK-supplied Apple (with SIUK) labels for WA, and adapted UK one box export labels for Abbey Road.

It is a documented fact that EMI's regional affiliate for the West Indies until circa late 1967 was in Jamaica, at which time it switched to Barbados.

The Jamaican LPs were identified on the label as being manufactured in Jamaica, with the possible exception of the spuriously-named "Decca contract" Sgt. Pepper. I continue to believe that the best explanation for that one is that it was made in Barbados using UK labels (as was the case with the Barbados WA). I believe it is possible that it was pressed in Jamaica, as the switch from Jamaica to Barbados may have come after Sgt. Pepper was released. However, Jamaica had long before created its own labels for the Capitol and the Parlophone Beatles LPs so it would have been strange for a Jamaica-made Sgt. Pepper to sport UK labels.
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socorro,Feb 14 2014
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The Jamaican LPs were identified on the label as being manufactured in Jamaica, with the possible exception of the spuriously-named "Decca contract" Sgt. Pepper.  I continue to believe that the best explanation for that one is that it was made in Barbados using UK labels (as was the case with the Barbados WA).

But Barbados labels have a completely different label rim than the false y/b Decca pressings, which have a typical "deep groove" label. Plus the fact that Barbados pressings, such as Hey Jude and AR mention "made in Barbados", while the false Deccas do not have a country (except for UK of course).
See also here: http://z10.invisionfree.com/BeatlesCollect...pic=108&st=1605 (June 22 2013 post that compares the labels) and here: http://z10.invisionfree.com/BeatlesCollect...pic=108&st=1620 :The false y/b Deccas look most similar to Jamaica pressings. I thought we agreed in this previous thread that y/b false Deccas are not from Barbados, or have I missed any new facts ???
Here is what I think could be a Barbados pressing with made in UK only, because of the label rim that is also seen on other Barbados pressings (and is completely different from the false Decca deep groove) and because of the CARIFTA stickered sleeve: http://www.popsike.com/Beatles-Hey-Jude-1s...0224512553.html
Deep groove WIRL(Bar) pressings do exist though: http://www.discogs.com/viewimages?release=1869842
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