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The New Wiki; Where I'll put any decisions regarding t
Topic Started: Sep 22 2013, 07:34 AM (940 Views)
Spirantho
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Hi everybody,

I'm just going through the wiki changes - a lot have been made, so that's brilliant. :)

I've merged a few things, though, as I don't want the information to be diluted. For instance, I don't want there to be separate pages for mono and stereo versions, as that's not what people will look for - they'll just look for the album, and probably end up choosing the wrong section.

I've also shrunk larger images to 512x512 (roughly) as I need to watch the bandwidth, and this resolution is still just fine for anything other than large scale printing. Keep back-ups, though - they may come in handy if/when we get more bandwidth.

I'm constantly creating templates at the moment. There are three so far:
"infobox" - this just takes the name of the album and the filename of the picture. Use this for covers.
"RecordLabels" - followed by "mono" or "stereo", and the two filenames of the pictures (one per side).
"RecordLabelsStereo" - followed by the two mono filenames, and the two stereo filenames.

Check out the Apple LPs for examples (c.f. Wonderwall Music) - and of course you can always ask; more than happy to help.

I want this thread to be about queries, decision-making etc. for the new site!

Keep up the good work, contributors. :)
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TheItalianFab4
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Now I'm still not able to use the templates for the pics but I hope that'll learn, just a matter of time.
That's why I'm only into the written parts.

As we also need to write down the acronyms of the major songs and write a bit about them is there anyone who could give a hand?

I've also written a bit about the EPs and the albums but pics are needed, so anyone again who'd like to contribute is welcome.
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billstiggins
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I did once link the pages for each UK single & EP on this site:

Singles

EPs

Unfortunately, a number of scans have been moved *at source*, so we have broken links, and the missing scans are generally the 'standard' pressings. If you can reassemble those, then you could use what remains on the above pages as a supplement.
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Pacey
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This is looking good so far, excellent work!

Regarding data on the original Beatles Collecting website you are free to take all the text from it. I can provide 512x512 images of all the records we had up there in a few days – the unwatermarked images are stored on a hard drive I don't currently have with me. If you like, once the template pages for each record / label are set up I can insert the images?
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Pacey,Sep 22 2013
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If you like, once the template pages for each record / label are set up I can insert the images?

That could be a great solution as well.
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Spirantho,Sep 22 2013
07:34 AM
I'm constantly creating templates at the moment. There are three so far:
"infobox" - this just takes the name of the album and the filename of the picture. Use this for covers.
"RecordLabels" - followed by "mono" or "stereo", and the two filenames of the pictures (one per side).
"RecordLabelsStereo" - followed by the two mono filenames, and the two stereo filenames.

1. Most of my stuff is non-UK, non-US and I know that most members are primarily interested in the UK and US records, so it may be biting off too much to adapt the site to "all nations." If that can work, though, I would love to archive some of my stuff (I probably wouldn't bother where there are already comprehensive sites for a particular country, e.g. Spain, Australia, Switzerland, Japan).

2. Other suggested templates might include inner sleeves and inserts.

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Pacey
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I wonder if it might be wise, in line with Spirantho's first post, to try and gather as much information into as few pages as possible. For example, at the moment there are separate pages for tax code information, album release dates, terminology, etc.

Not that I'm saying it should be a template for the new site, but on the original site I dumped all this kind of reference data into a single page:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/3258578...l/glossary.html

It kept things from sprawling across multiple pages and reduced the number of clicks a user made to access the data.
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Spirantho
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I think there has to be a balance between number of clicks and cluttered information.
The beauty of a wiki though is that we can link very easily to other pages, but I agree certain pages shouldn't have too much info.

I think it's a good idea to have the terminology just a links page, otherwise loading will take too long, and it'll seem intimidating.

One other thing: I want to be sure that the photos that are being uploaded are all properly available.
Therefore can anyone who uploads a photo please including the comment the source of the photo. For instance, a comment such as "Scan from my collection" would be usual, or maybe "Scan from the original BeatlesCollecting.co.uk website, used with permission".
We mustn't use photos from eBay or from other websites, that's very important.
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Spirantho
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I've just finished a first draft of a Please Please Me page here:
http://www.retroreview.com/mediawiki/index...se_Me_-_Mono_LP

There's no photos yet as there seems little point doing this until Pacey has provided his photos. :)
What do people think of the way I've split up the labels though? I've not included the "probably exist but we've never seen one" labels from the original beatlescollecting.co.uk data, as I don't think the stereo releases exactly paralleled the mono releases as they were pressed at different times.

I've also included the 1982 mono pressing as part of "Label 2" as this is where people will expect to find it, even though there's such a time distance between it and the other Label 2s.

Feedback?
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TheItalianFab4
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As I wrote to you to me it's a very clear and simple way of explanation, exactly what we need.

IMHO I would not include any variation just after 1973/1974 (after the Gramo Two Boxes lables) except the 1981/1982 reissues.

I appreciate the idea of not writing "probably exists etc".
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Spirantho
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I think it's worth including the later labels too, myself. They'll be at the bottom of the page so out of the way - not doing any harm :)
People will come across pressings from the early 80's or something and want to date them, so we should provide that info I reckon.
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TheItalianFab4
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Yes, you're absolutely right, we should include 'em as well.
I only thought so simply because they are not so interesting and important.
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Pacey
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I think that all looks quite neat. Once the pics are up it'll look a lot clearer!

I also agree that the later issues are important. There are a lot of variations among them, some which are very collectible.

The 'existence unconfirmed' ones should probably be ignored, yes. We kept them in principally because we were trying to maintain consistency between the monos and stereos.
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What about saving the page files (e.g., Please Please Me LP) in PDF format, so that the pictures would be part of the files themselves?
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namralos,Sep 22 2013
10:34 PM
What about saving the page files (e.g., Please Please Me LP) in PDF format, so that the pictures would be part of the files themselves?

And having them as PDF's means that folks without editing access cant muck with them - they're "locked". But that may cause problems later if editing is required.
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