Welcome Guest [Log In] [Register]
Welcome to Beatles Collecting. We hope you enjoy your visit.


You're currently viewing our forum as a guest. This means you are limited to certain areas of the board and there are some features you can't use. If you join our community, you'll be able to access member-only sections, and use many member-only features such as customizing your profile, sending personal messages, and voting in polls. Registration is simple, fast, and completely free.


Join our community!


If you're already a member please log in to your account to access all of our features:

Username:   Password:
Add Reply
Magical Mystery Tour; Mono and Stereo
Topic Started: Apr 24 2012, 06:19 PM (1,489 Views)
TheItalianFab4
Level 5
[ *  *  *  *  * ]
Tha value of the double ep (with and without solid center labels)?

And what about the American lp (Capitol label)?
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
TheItalianFab4
Level 5
[ *  *  *  *  * ]
Why didn't Capitol release a double ep, too?
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
muffmasterh
Level 7
[ *  *  *  *  *  *  * ]

EP's were on way out in the states by 67, indeed they were in the UK too and the decision to issue a double EP ( actually more a double maxi single ) in the UK raised eyebrows too until it was only kept from the number one singles spot by Hello Goodbye !!

The Beatles also had more control over their issues in the UK than in the USA

Can't giver you a value, I sold near minters for 25 pounds and 150 pounds....you tell me I've no idea anymore !!!
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
namralos
Member Avatar
Level 5
[ *  *  *  *  * ]
Parlophone did not want to issue a double EP. They considered replacing it with a soundtrack album containing bits from the film. However, as MMH indicates, the EP then went on to become the highest-charting EP ever in the history of the singles charts -- beating the Beatles' own "Twist and Shout." This was such an impossible feat (rather like With the Beatles reaching #11 on the SINGLES chart) that Parlophone decided they loved it after all. Even though several other countries rejected the EP right away and more bailed on it in the early 1970's (e.g., Germany, France), Parlophone-UK did not release the LP version until 1976 and kept the EP in print along with all the other Beatle EP's. By contrast, they phased out EP's entirely in 1969, and as far as I know there were no non-Beatles EP's in print in 1976.

As for the States, most companies had eliminated EP's entirely by 1967. RCA, which invented the format, phased them out almost entirely at the end of 1960. In 1962-63, they released a few, but after 1963 the only EP's in their catalog were from Elvis Presley. Capitol basically killed off the EP even before the original Four by the Beatles failed to do much in 1964. However, that EP sold well enough that they decided (September, 1964) to create a series of "4 by" records that would include 4 songs but which would be priced as singles. The Beach Boys record in the series sold quite well, but the later Beatle one was a failure. A Buck Owens disc still in June, 1965, did not sell well enough for Capitol to keep the format around.

By the end of 1967, all of Capitol's EP's were out of print, and they had no plans to release another.

Values?
Mono EP -- may depend on label variation. The most common ones seem to be the ones with pub credits on 3 lines.
Stereo EP -- SHOULD depend on label variation, as what I call the "tall thin print" is harder to find.
The difficulty on any of the EP's is finding them properly matched with the same label variation on all four sides. Only the "3 line" copies seem to accomplish this regularly.
Stereo EP original solid -- I have not seen a fully-matched (1,2,3,4) set of solid-centre copies ANYWHERE.

US mono LP goes for 4 to 5 times what a stereo one commands.

These sell on eBay every week, and a check of past sales should reveal plenty of prices.
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
TheItalianFab4
Level 5
[ *  *  *  *  * ]
Thank you very much for the inetresting stories!

Again stereo is rarer than mono, right?
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
muffmasterh
Level 7
[ *  *  *  *  *  *  * ]

stereo originals are very much rarer than the mono

ps I have a solid centred cross over 69 stereo listed at the moment, but Frank is right I also know of no solid centred stereo disc two with sold in UK text, only disc one, the copy I have is solid for both discs but again only disc one has the sold in UK text

Sales pitch complete unless you want to buy a cheap iphone lol ???
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
TheItalianFab4
Level 5
[ *  *  *  *  * ]
What about a "common" '69 stereo one?
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
TheItalianFab4
Level 5
[ *  *  *  *  * ]
If it's in mint condition?
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
muffmasterh
Level 7
[ *  *  *  *  *  *  * ]

The more common ones are actually from 1972 onward they are often called 69 copies by mistake. maybe about 30 in nr mint condition sometimes less sometimes more...
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
jimboo
Level 3
[ *  *  * ]
Did Capitol not export the US LP press to the UK with a Parlohone import Label.
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
muffmasterh
Level 7
[ *  *  *  *  *  *  * ]

The UK imported the LP, but they also imported other US Lp's, these often carried a gold import sticker, don't recall parlophone ever being on the sticker ??
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
jimboo
Level 3
[ *  *  * ]
muffmasterh,Apr 27 2012
09:17 PM
The UK imported the LP, but they also imported other US Lp's, these often carried a gold import sticker, don't recall parlophone ever being on the sticker ??

Your right as usual, tracked it down,
http://www.jpgr.co.uk/pctc255.html

So, did E.M.I. give it an official release ... NO (not on vinyl) ... but oddly, they did give it an official IMPORT release. Through the usual E.M.I. ordering procedures British record shops could order it using the U.S. catalogue number of SMAL 2835 and it became the biggest selling import for E.M.I. selling over 50,000 copies, which even took it into the official charts reaching number 31.
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
muffmasterh
Level 7
[ *  *  *  *  *  *  * ]

That does not surprise me..

You could walk into many UK record shops, and certainly HMV oxford street, and find many U.S albums for sale but MMT was the most common - and obviously the most popular as you saw that LP far more than you did any of the others.

Interestingly of course you could also find the CPCS export LP's in the shops, again Hey Jude was the most common by a country mile but I recall seeing a 72 something New with non flipback sleeve. It was in the racks for what seemed several years

Wished I had bloody bought it !!!
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
TheItalianFab4
Level 5
[ *  *  *  *  * ]
IMHO this is too high!

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BEATLES-Magical-...d#ht_609wt_1037
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
muffmasterh
Level 7
[ *  *  *  *  *  *  * ]

I agree although I understand it to be the rarest of these coloured vinyl issues from the late 70's...
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
1 user reading this topic (1 Guest and 0 Anonymous)
Go to Next Page
« Previous Topic · Singles and EPs · Next Topic »
Add Reply