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I Want To Hold Your Hand; Contract Pressing? Not in the BOOK
Topic Started: Apr 21 2012, 11:22 PM (1,181 Views)
badger44
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I have recently purchased a copy of IWTHYH which has a centre that looks like a combination of a Decca and an EMI pressing!! Normal push out gap but then the Decca like ridge as well! Definitely not in the BOOK.

Anyone heard of or seen it before?

I would post scans, which I have made, but being fairly new to this, I'm not sure how to!

I have a Photobucket account. Exact instructions please
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badger44,Apr 21 2012
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I have a Photobucket account. Exact instructions please

When you are viewing your photobucket image, right-click on the picture and select 'View Image Info'. This will bring up a new window - halfway down, it says 'Location' - copy the address to the right of that.

Then back on here, add a reply and click the 'Img' button above the text window - and when prompted, paste the URL into the pop-up window.

I'm keen to see this one :)
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I hope this worksPosted Image
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badger44
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I will try to do a more detailed scan than that ie: larger, but again, detailed instructions please.

Thank you and goodnight
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I can't see well but its almost certainly a Decca imho...

my bet would be is that there will be a small ridge running around the centre in the depressed part just before the gap.

My guess is that this is where the gap should start but sometimes the cutting machines or pressing machines or what ever machine stamped out the gap missed its target.

Try and press down the scanner when scanning it, that can make the scan sharper...I have photo impression that allows me to enhance the the light and crop or zoom in on the desire area...

No sure what you are using but if you have anything like that you can crop around the centre and make it lighter so its easier to see....

..........and Then save it to photobucket.

Sadly I find photobuckets editing impossible to use, it just will not crop, in fact its hard enough to get it to rotate and stay there lol !!
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badger44
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H I fear you maybe completely right

http://i1245.photobucket.com/albums/gg597/...actPressing.jpg

An unfinished Decca pressing!!

Nevermind it will still be part of my collection as an oddity
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yikes now I've seen that you have put doubt in my mind......

I'd like to see a close up of that centre !!

what concerns me is the larger ridge it looks like it goes up and down if that makes any sense, like a flange...thats not the norm at all !!, it should go up and then be flat all the way to the centre hole.....
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Ok

I've just been comparing the 3 pressings

1. A proper Decca pressing: Matrix at 6 O'clock and tax code at 9
2. An EMI pressing: Matrix at 6, tax code at 9 and stampers at 3
3. The pressing in question: Matrix at 6 and that's it. Nothing else in runout on A side. Matrix at 6 and tax code at 9 on B side.
Plus it has the upward flange at the spindle hole on the A side. (my Decca pressing has the upward flange on the B side)

So what do we conclude from that?

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Decca stampers do vary so I wouldn't put too much stock by that but if you can zoom in on that centre it may help.....
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I have a copy of Help like this; it's a Decca contract pressing with a mis-cut push out. Spizer's book has a picture of such a label (it's I Want To Hold Your Hand, in fact) on page 426, and says, "A relatively small number of Decca singles have narrower gaps in the centre, resulting in a larger (push out) centre, and have a noticeable trench in the outer edge of the centre."
So; very obscure, but not unheard of.
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Checkmate!

I bow to your having read the BOOK better than I did and many thanks for pointing it out.
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Thats quite right but there was something in that last picture that looked odd...

but I'm sure its probably a decca..what else could it be...
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Decca pressings were made with two different-sized "gaps." That is a Decca, and it is in the book.

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I had another look and my eyes must have been playing tricks on me with the second photo....saw something on it I don't see now

Defo a Decca no argument now ...all doubt banished !!

should have stuck with my original reply lol !!

U usually see those extra rings deccas for She Loves You , no so much on IWTHYH and after..

But you can get them on almost any of them even Help...although yet to see them on HG !
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So!! A new branch on the neverending tree of collecting!

Where will it all end?
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