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Hey Jude / Revolution; Apple R 5722
Topic Started: Mar 22 2010, 08:27 AM (8,438 Views)
muffmasterh
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All my tri-prongs are smooth but if its a tri prong it has to be a philips/polydor even if its textured !!

I don't think there is any exact error in calling these philips but its probably more accurate to call them polydor so for what its worth I am calling them Philips/polydor
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By ray7027 at 2012-01-16

I guess this should really not be called a rough surface label because it is only rough on
the push out section. It does not show up on the scan.

On the subject of Phillips/Polydor pressings. I have a first press of Manfred Mann's Mighty Quinn on Fontanna that looks to me like an EMI contract pressing. It even has
the KT tax code around the center hole on side 2. Do any of you have one? The matrix numbers are Polydor style there is a #13 @ 3 o'clock on side 1 and a #14 @ 3 o'clock on side 2.
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That looks almost certainly a PYE Ray..

Never seen an EMI contract pressed fontana but its definately possible, indeed almost certain if KT is embossed either side of the spindle.

I have a Searchers on PYE and a Dylan CBS contracted pressed by EMI both with the KT embossing... so why not Fontana !
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Here is the side. You can see the Polydor style matrix number. I am surprised that the
9 o'clock position has numbers instead of letters.
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Yes thats almost certainly 99.999999999999999% EMI. IMHO

Interestingly some of their contract pressings DO NOT have normal emi stampers...and I cannot explain that one either !!!
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Indeed, that's an EMI contract pressing, Ray.
The first part of the process (metal master) and often the second (mother) took place at the "source" record company. Metal parts were sent to the pressing plant, which carried out the rest of the process. So, an EMI pressing of a Fontana record would have signs of having been prepared at one company and pressed at the other -- just like the Beatles singles do.
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I've just picked up a copy of hey Jude with ridges on both sides similar to those of the 1982 pressing on page one of this thread. However, mine is darker and has "sold in Uk" in the 4 pronged centre. Any ideas when this dates from. sorry I don't know how to share images here. Happy to email one to someone who can.

AH

PS I am "officially gutted". Just picked up a Pye contract (for 50p) which jumps all over the place and is thus rendered unplayable :( :( :(
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If you have what I think you might have, I'd say it's from the mid-80's. I have a copy of the Yesterday EP with "Sold in UK" that is clearly from about 1984-5.
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I have to say that it looks darker than any post 60's pressing I've ever seen.

Further research suggest that it might be this:

http://yokono.co.uk/collection/beatles/uk/...side1_large.jpg

http://yokono.co.uk/collection/beatles/uk/...side2_large.jpg

AH
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If that is the same as the yoko ono then it's an original pressing from 1968-9 and nothing to do with the 80's

Basically there must have been another " rogue " EMI stamping Machine at Hayes as several pressings are found with these ridges around the spindle hole. Hey Judes are slightly different in that there is more of a " bump " in the centre, otherwise I have copies with these ridges on Ballad, Something, My Sweet Lord, Cold Turkey and maybe some others. Pacey even has one on a Lady Madonna. There are almost certainly others. So far I've only seen HJ's with the " bump "

However these are often confused with post 72 polo ring pressings but the polo ringed 72 onwards pressing have one large ring and then a smaller ring usually ( but not always ) on the B side. But there is no ridge but it can look like there is a ridge, but there isn't

Hey 50p for a Pye HJ, who cares that it jumps for that price lol...just play another Hey Jude and look at the PYE while you are listening !!

But if you want a playable PYE I'm sure I could let you have one for a tenner ;-)

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Thanks for the offer of the Pye single. I've spent a small fortune over the last few months, so I may take you up on it at a later date. Basically, I'm trying to build up an interesting collection on a budget. My old record collection comprised of all UK releases 1962-85. There were a few imports thrown in (many re-issues). This time with ebay at my fingertips, instead of expensive trips to London record dives, I'm able to source all manner of interesting labels and releases. I've decided to aim for getting as many different songs on singles as possible. I have to admit a weakness for singles from Holland though, just because I can really! My new awareness of all the different pressings has enabled me to secure over fifty so far. At the moment I'm waiting for Let it be South African Parlophone. Unfortunately, I think it's travelling on foot from it's native land!!!!

AH
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Yes I know what you mean, I try to collect nearly all UK of the stuff from 1962-73 and I have so many variants of HJ its untrue...I've got a 69 copy listed at the moment.

I've a couple of dutch LP's and also a couple of SA LP's still to list, I only collect UK stuff really as a rule although I always hang onto any US originals that fall into my lap hehe !!

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That's right. Yokono's copy is from 1969.
The font on the 1982 reissues is entirely different.

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Some knowledgable conformation needed here please. I've read this topic several times..and am just getting myself more and more confused with all the variations!!
Got a LIB through the post this morning..and am assuming it's a standard later pressing...Pic slv as well, but would like some conformation. (will try to post pics for 1st time..fingers crossed.

It has solid centre...with polo rings/circles..1u/2 matrices...with KT in run-out groove.
side 1 has 15 7 stampers...side 2 has 1 22.
nick w scratched in dead wax.
Just need a date/issue so i can catalogue it.
Thanks.
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That is a 1980s issue, pressed by Virgin. You may want to check the Let It Be single thread....
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