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Inner Sleeves Id Page; challange the muffmaster with your inner
Topic Started: Jul 10 2009, 04:13 PM (3,464 Views)
muffmasterh
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Ah I think it's what I thought it was from your description, it's the poster that came with Band on the Run.

It's not a valuable LP or poster however there is a generally unappericated rarity, very early copies have -1 matricies, most have -2 and you hardly ever see a -1 so they are the ones to look out for.

Also my Matrix -1 is on heavy vinyl, that is also very rare, this LP was released at about the time when vinyl went thin and awful due to the 73/4 oil crisis. It plays so much better than a lighter normal copy!
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Will Cambell
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Hi,

Thank you for that, yeah I’m not going to get excited, I do have that LP ‘Band on the Run’ without a poster.. so thats good, it fitted in nicely. The LP has a 2/2 matrix and the vinyl is not too thin, but what I really dont like are the non laminated sleeves…. arghhh !

I did start to buy up some solo Lennon and McCa LPs in the late 1980s, but they just don’t make the pulse race like the 1960s Beatle stuff does !

WC.



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muffmasterh
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Agreed and the cut off date for collectability of all discs seems to be 1973, I think it must be a vinyl quality thing.

Yes unlaminated sleeves are awful, I had a mint bought from new -2 Band on the Run and was very lucky to find a near mint sleeve for my -1 copy which I originally got in a charity shop!!!

Earlier 73 sleeves are also slightly different to sleeves from only a couple of years later ( 75 ), the major diff being in the txt on the spine and top edge
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muffmasterh,Aug 18 2009
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Very early copies have -1 matricies, most have -2 and you hardly ever see a -1 so they are the ones to look out for.

Also my Matrix -1 is on heavy vinyl, that is also very rare, this LP was released at about the time when vinyl went thin and awful due to the 73/4 oil crisis. It plays so much better than a lighter normal copy!

So what do you collectors know about the Band on the run with the matrix no. ZYEX929-3. Our "friend" on Ebay with a lot of X'es in his alias has a copy advertised as a rare export copy. And he has priced it at GBP 175,00.

The reason I am eager to know is because recently i visited a second hand shop to look for any new Beatles stuff, and I grab the first band on the run copy I see and bingo it was with that matrix.

And for GBP 3,00 it wasn't that bad a deal.

So can any one tell a story there?

Regards

Preben Vedsted
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muffmasterh
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I think I saw that before on his listings, presumably because 175 is a little steep.

However I think his conclusion maybe correct, it might be an export job...
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Will Cambell
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Hi,

Here is one for the Muffmasterh, I have recently received a very nice ‘One Box’ copy of Rubber Soul. I was excepting to find the earlier red n white EMI advertising inner sleeve inside, ie the 16 box type, but it arrived with a plain white sleeve with blue writing on, saying ‘ Patent applied for’ and ‘Made in England’, but the strangest thing is that it has on either side, a ‘Die cut hole’ ! is this correct for the 1969,70, 71 period ?

thanks

WC.


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muffmasterh
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Hi Will

The muffmaster thinks this is most defo a swap. The sleeve itself comes from an earlier time, 1966-8 ( patent(s) applied for ) in my opinion and although it may be an EMI inner it was never used on any pop records that I know of or have ever seen.

However I do have one on a Count Basie 1967 LP on the Command label, one of those obscure labels that was for a time pressed by EMI in the UK. Of course it may even be a swap on my Count Basie but it was a minter and it does " look " contemporary with the Basie LP.

I have several of these inners as spares, trouble is other than maybe the Basie on Command I'm not 100 per cent sure where they should live lol !!

that is the gospel according to the Muffmaster!!
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Will Cambell
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Hi,

Thanks for that, I feared as much.

Sometimes I will get an Abbey Rd through the post with a white Die cut inner and that’s not right is it ? We know the Emitexs had the die cuts but they were lined, and the later black inners had a die cut hole but ONLY one side !.

Thanks,

WC.


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muffmasterh
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Thats correct Will, first press Abbeys have either the Black one sided diecut or plain white patents number inner with rounded corners.

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muffmasterh
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I once saw this inner sleeve on a sale of Andrews, I think it was in a Revolver . In 35 years I have never seen one before or since ....until today

I was not ever sure if what I seen on his listng I had actually imagined but at a record fair in Spitalfields today inside a stereo Summer Days by the Beach boys from June 1966 ( handy date coded Garrod sleeve ) was this

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The assumption is that when EMI switched from the rice paper emitex inners in 1966 to the plain white " patents applied for " inners there was a transitional " patents applied for " with the Emitex text still on it.

In 35 years this is the first example that I have ever handled and the first I have ever seen after that one on that listing of Andrews....

he LP cost me 3 quid, worth it to me just for the inner!
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gordon7009
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Never seen that inner before, H! Quite agree, must be some sort of transitional one between the Emitex lined one and the plain one, nice! Seems logical to me that you may have seen a "Revolver" with this inner, I have a 606-1 copy but the sleeve is totally wrecked and the inner has been swapped for a Decca one (not my doing, you understand), so I'm afraid I can't help you there!
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muffmasterh
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Like I say I had only seen a picture of one before that came with a Revolver being sold by Andrew. Most 1st press Revolvers have just a plain white Patents applied for inner....

In 35 years I had never actually handled one ..... until now !
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the57thbeatle
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Never thought I'd see the day where I would say WOW when looking at a generic inner sleeve......

WOW....
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muffmasterh
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Indeed - Easily the rarest Generic EMI inner I would think, there is a rare early black / white advertising innner from 66/7 with Rubber Soul on it which is kind of a precusor of the more common one of 67/8 which has Revolver on it. But I've seen and handled 5 or 6 of them now...I doubt I'll see another one of these !

one in 35 years ..... wow indeed

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Will Cambell
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Hi,

I’ve just picked up one of these Emitex sleeves, ie no die cut holes and no rice paper liner, it came from a copy of “ The George Shearing Quintet”, bottom flipback dated 66/07, with ‘Capital / EMI’ on the main sleeve. Interesting that the sleeve has rounded bottom corners like the later ? ‘Patent Applied For’ Beatle sleeves and not the square corners of the 64/65 Beatle Emitex sleeves !

WC.



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