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| Topic Started: Sep 26 2008, 12:12 AM (701 Views) | |
| Omni-X | Sep 26 2008, 12:12 AM Post #1 |
Forsaken Oaths
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I'm getting really sick of this bullshit concerning the EVP Chart. People are complaining that Evolution is no longer an 'accomplishment'. Well, don't forget, this is the way MOST of you wanted things to be. The two systems that we've had each had their ups and downs, and they each represented different things. The first system, which was to have the admins and sometimes mods decide when people could Digivolve to the next level. That system represented Accomplishment. The EVP Chart allows people to post at their own pace and digivolve after a set number of topics. This system represents fairness. You cannot have both systems, so either trash the EVP System or stop complaining about it. To settle all of this, I want all of you to actually post your opinions concerning this matter, and I will go along with the majority. This will not be a poll, but rather a discussion. If you decide to keep the EVP Chart, I will personally revamp it to make everyone happy. (The last time I updated it, I just increased the values a bit and got rid of the decimal values. This time, I will actually rewrite the entire chart.) If, however, you decide to return to the old system, then that is what shall happen. All of this bullshit is really starting to annoy me, so after this, I will be really ticked off at anyone who brings it up again. After you all decide this, remember: This was YOUR choice, so don't complain about it. Anyway, sorry for the language, but this matter has been unresolved for a long time, and it has been a constant annoyance. Also, please note that I'd rather return to the old system. I've never liked the EVP System. Part of that is because of all these problems that it caused. |
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| Duo | Sep 26 2008, 12:19 AM Post #2 |
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i would like to see the evp based evolutions as it is, however but with it updated to fix problems that i've noticed that have risen with it,and with the new digivolution stages added also with a value increase then what the current version has.. thats all i ever wanted.. hence why i stayed out of the war.. >_< |
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| Becula | Sep 26 2008, 12:22 AM Post #3 |
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I prefer the EVP system, since it lets people decide when their digimon can digivolve (once it reaches the right level). I never really had any problems with the old EVP charts, or noticed them until it was brought up. Some people think its too fast, but it sonly as fast as you make it. People have the option of taking their time making a digimon digivolve. Its not like they have to rush it. Plus if its a problem, we could limit evp to battle/plot threads. Or require a certain page length for any evp at all. (Like a one page rp, no EVP.) |
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| Timeheart | Sep 26 2008, 12:34 AM Post #4 |
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I agree... it never has been truly resolved since things started shifting around with it. I still think it needs work. but It's hard to make it right for everyone. We need to work with it. |
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| Gogglehead | Sep 26 2008, 09:02 AM Post #5 |
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I prefer the EVP chart, it worked fine in the short time that I've been here, and as other people have said, it let's you pace yourself and decide when to digivolve. |
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| Slayer | Sep 26 2008, 01:50 PM Post #6 |
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I'd rather not pull up the demon in me that emerged last night. I'll simply say that I would prefer the admin system. I've realized that the EVP chart will never be agred upon becaue people work at their own pace, which I tried to explain to Drake before. If the chart is still emplemented, I think the rule of 3 point cap (Unless given open argument.) is a good idea, along with that idea of Bec's that short topics recieve no EVP. |
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| YuriHitoehi | Sep 26 2008, 06:58 PM Post #7 |
Psycho Fangirl
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I haven't been here for too long, and I'm very inactive on this site, but I have plenty experience with evolution charts. EVP all the way, because although the staff is indeed fair and good on this site, sometimes it might get out of hand if we resort to a chart of simply 'can I digivolve?'. The EVP chart is stable, more fair, and has a lot more ups than the 'can I digivolve?' system's ups. |
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| Genesis | Sep 26 2008, 11:04 PM Post #8 |
Agent of Chaos
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Frankly, I think we should all really put our heads together on a good system. It seems to me, when the admins feel threatened (even with their outrageous, gratuitous bits and the occasional extra EVP), they wanna start an overhaul. Yes, I agree that the old system was a little dodgy, HOWEVER, we could have left it. It had a couple little flaws that simply needed to be re-written (the DNA chart being all seperate made my brain explode) and I think it would have been fine like that. Anywho, I think these are the issues we need to address: 1. Level limits. People have Digimon that can digivolve further than others. That's not fair. Why not set a limit at burst mode (or in Imperialdramon's case let's say, fighter mode)? I think this would be fair for people whose Digimon don't have extra mode changes beyond what we could call a universal burst mode that everyone can have. What the fuck is anyone gonna do with Imperialdramon PM anyway? Think about it. If that means me losing Dexmon, that's okay. Seriously. As long as we can all be on the same page so that people aren't beating up on the othe people whose Digimon just HAPPEN to not reach as high a level without absurd made-up evolutions. 2. Champion/Armour level. I think most members should be able to have their Digimon start off at at LEAST the armour level. New members are going to lose interest easily if it takes forever to reach the bloody champion level. On the armour regard, we should set guidelines or at least the specifics on how to obtain a digiegg. From there, say a Digimon doesn't have an armour form, they will have the opportunity to create one (which has been done and I think that's great). 3. Granted EVP. Dear god, don't return to the god damn decimal system. It's retarded and it gives me a headache (I'm pretty sure I'm not alone on this one). WHOLE numbers, please. In accordance with what Bec's said, I agree that roleplays 1 page or under should not be able to receive EVP. I've seen this happen, and it's not fair. It doesn't take much to roleplay a couple of pages. I'd even say that 2 pages minimum for EVP isn't unreasonable. Well, I think that's my piece. I know I probably sound pompous and bitchy, but it's late and everybody else is at each others' necks for this. Let's all smush our best ideas together and throw out the shit in between. Let's keep it simple, easy to comprehend, and fair 
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| Timeheart | Sep 28 2008, 04:15 PM Post #9 |
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I think The old Admin approval system might work ok. As long as our admin don't over do it. I didn't have any serious problems with it back then. |
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| Omni-X | Sep 30 2008, 07:00 PM Post #10 |
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Forsaken Oaths
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Okay, not counting my opinion, it looks like the EVP Chart wins. Thus, I will post my new EVP Chart below. Remember, do not complain. YOU chose this.
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私はオムニです。 初めまして。 我叫Omni。怎么样？你是我的朋友吗？你会说中文吗？ Dragons: Spoiler: click to toggle The Way Omni Wishes he looked.
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| Timeheart | Sep 30 2008, 07:21 PM Post #11 |
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Now that seems kinda carried away compared to the system Duo and I created. And We'd also have to scale the spirit system way up to just to match it! |
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| Duo | Sep 30 2008, 07:29 PM Post #12 |
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i can't complain about it, i rather like it..
 and normally the high level tamers would be complaining, but i'm the highest evp tamer and i agree with the system.. infact i can't wait.. and it also means when you reach a digivolution level u know u earnt it.. |
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| Gogglehead | Sep 30 2008, 09:52 PM Post #13 |
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While I agree with the fact that you feel like you've earned it, I still find it a bit...excessive. But it's still good nonetheless. |
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Profile Info Kaishi: 3277 BITs..............................Jerai: 1000 BITs 1.Monodramon/Mono: 1st Armour.........1.Wormmon/Sting: Rookie 1.Yaamon/Beld: In-Training.................2. ............................................... Rei: 1000 BITs.......................... 1.Agumon/Kato: Rookie................ 2.Reremon/Ren: Baby.............. | |
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| DestinedOne | Sep 30 2008, 11:47 PM Post #14 |
The Paladin of Light
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I HATE IT and there's no way in hell that I am abiding by that. It's bad enough that I'm gonna have to lose most of my EVP but this just makes me even more furious.EVP rate for normal topics is exactly the same and the amount of EVP able to get in plots has increase slightly but the amount of EVP for each form has significantly increased.How do you think I'm gonna feel about having to get two of my partners to 600 EVP, 2 to 455 EVP, 1 to 532 EVP and the other to 344 EVP.Not only that but it screws up the pay day system entirely. |
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| Omni-X | Oct 1 2008, 12:28 AM Post #15 |
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Forsaken Oaths
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First of all, this new Evo chart is basically the Decimal system, except scaled up to whole numbers. Anyway, this chart is not really going to be used. The fact that we were arguing a lot over a few small changes annoyed me, not to mention people were complaining about the system itself. So, I set this up to make you appreciate it a little bit more. Now, if you still wish for a revamp to the Evo Chart, feel free to send me suggestions, which I will discuss with the other staff. However, for now we will be using Slayer's Compromise Chart. Now that this crap about the EVP Chart is done and over with (hopefully), we can focus our attention on more important updates or changes, if we decide to make any. Remember, we can always revert back to this chart, or even double the values. So stop arguing over trivial things. (By this, I mean that Duo's chart included several important changes, and and so he needed to change certain values to accommodate them, and we couldn't agree to make those changes. Even the compromise faced some slight opposition.) |
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私はオムニです。 初めまして。 我叫Omni。怎么样？你是我的朋友吗？你会说中文吗？ Dragons: Spoiler: click to toggle The Way Omni Wishes he looked.
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