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Comic for 11 Apr 2013; Not really about genetics… OMG THE THEORIES
Topic Started: Apr 11 2013, 08:07 AM (260 Views)
Jordan
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Oh my God. So we've thrown around a few theories about how sensitives came to be that way, and it looks like not a few of them are about to be invalidated or modified by new information. Time to put on our hypothesis hats!

Also: Mike. :wub:
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poing
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I really like this comic, so reading the latest page has me feeling anxious.
I hope otter is presenting this one guy as the sort of person who would casually dismiss the existence of both First Nation peoples in the North American Continent and the Aboriginal populations of Australia as "not people." Many of the early european settlements along the North American coast were French or Dutch shipping company supply depots. Perhaps there are sensitives in those populations as well, but one only sees ghosts specific to one's culture? Does a sensitive from any culture have the ability to see the glow of a sensitive from another?

Or are we dealing more with "A country is a concept, not geography" thinking here? If so, then at the time, none of the people I'm worried about would have considered themselves "American" or "Australian" and I'm all tore up over nothing.

Ok, theory time: This is a universe where time is mushy and belief has enormous power. So those individuals that are retroactively considered 'First' in a nation get huge doses of belief from the future members of that population, thus instilling abilities into the living that resonate with the well-remembered dead. It makes sense that those guys would be able to see each other, right?
Edited by poing, Apr 14 2013, 10:04 PM.
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yfnsa
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poing
Apr 14 2013, 09:58 PM
Or are we dealing more with "A country is a concept, not geography" thinking here? If so, then at the time, none of the people I'm worried about would have considered themselves "American" or "Australian" and I'm all tore up over nothing.
Hi Poing,

Welcome to the forums!

I think it is country as a concept. As in the Founding Fathers of the United States. We, the current US citizens, imbue their post corporeal existence.

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Ok, theory time: This is a universe where time is mushy and belief has enormous power. So those individuals that are retroactively considered 'First' in a nation get huge doses of belief from the future members of that population, thus instilling abilities into the living that resonate with the well-remembered dead. It makes sense that those guys would be able to see each other, right?

I tend to think more about it going the other way in time. We install abilities into the "well-remembered dead" that somehow resonate into their living descendents.

Or the current descendents just share a trait gained "back in the day" that aligns them somehow with their ancestors.

I hadn't thought about that part much but now I 'spose my brain will be stuck on it.

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Jordan
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Poing
 
I hope otter is presenting this one guy as the sort of person who would casually dismiss the existence of both First Nation peoples in the North American Continent and the Aboriginal populations of Australia as "not people."


Yeah, I get where you're coming from. From the dialogue ("It's all colonization and politics… Our ancestors were some territorial buggers!"), it looks like Otter's very aware of how that might come across, and Kipling is just being flippant; my interpretation is that by being generally belligerent and hard-to-ignore those ancestors ensured they were famous/notorious, thus being conferred some measure of power due to, or analogously to, ghosts.

(Also, I wouldn't be surprised if this is meant to reiterate that the old families are elitist assholes. It certainly gives more ammo to Hope and Mike's opposition.)

Poing
 
Perhaps there are sensitives in those populations as well, but one only sees ghosts specific to one's culture? Does a sensitive from any culture have the ability to see the glow of a sensitive from another?


I'm really interested to know that! My guess is that they're similar to regular ghosts, but their power will be reduced due to their cultural narratives being lost or compromised by colonialisation. Again, I think that's better to see that as a further indictment of colonialist attitudes rather than uncritical acceptance.

Poing
 
Or are we dealing more with "A country is a concept, not geography" thinking here?


This seems very likely. So far, most of your theory seems to be close to the mark. We know that human minds are capable of interacting with matter, as demonstrated by the chip and more recently the coin trick. We also know that the minds of the living contribute to the power (and perhaps even existence) of ghosts in the afterlife. There is also a great degree of symmetry between the powers of living sensitives and the powers of strong ghosts. It seems, therefore, reasonable that the living may be conferred some degree of native ability through a similar mechanism that is magnified through easier access to training and education.
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