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Comic for 15 NOV 2012; What the walrus?
Topic Started: Nov 15 2012, 05:08 AM (357 Views)
Taolan
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What the Walrus? Sums up Panel 4 perfectly.

Also, I watched the episode of My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic where "Derpy Hooves" speaks (in quotations because the name was given by the internet brony community)... and hearing her edited voice just made me cry a little on the inside.

Now begs the question, which Agent made the Walrus?

OTHER QUESTION - Can the Agents identify the creations of other Agents when they see a projection? Is there some kind of Chip-powered IFF system, or do they not know unless it provides identifying features?
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The who is Carlota (note the hovertext as well). The why is here.

(The forum search function is more and more helpful over time. Used to be I'd have to page through the archives to find what I was vaguely remembering.)
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Nov 15 2012, 05:22 AM
The who is Carlota (note the hovertext as well). The why is here.
Holy crap, your memory is a thing of wonder. :)
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Love the strip, but need to point out that these guys are swimming in the ocean in Far north Queensland in (I assume) mid to late spring.

They do know that box jellyfish appear around about this time right?

...and that they usually kill more tourists per annum than the sharks, crocs and snakes put together? >:)

Just thought I'd point that out. :sweat:
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Nov 15 2012, 12:43 PM
Love the strip, but need to point out that these guys are swimming in the ocean in Far north Queensland in (I assume) mid to late spring.

They do know that box jellyfish appear around about this time right?

...and that they usually kill more tourists per annum than the sharks, crocs and snakes put together? >:)

Just thought I'd point that out. :sweat:
Well, is it dangerous to the point of the public being warned not to swim there in that season, or just one of the risks people run?

"More than the rest put together" is still less than one a year - 66 documented (for everyone, not just tourists) since 1883. I've been feeling a little less impressed with the supposed deadliness of Australia since I learned the actual numbers. (Of course, I can certainly accept you need to be more alert and educated than in other places to prevent bites and keep bites from becoming fatal.)
Edited by Minivet, Nov 15 2012, 04:49 PM.
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Gekko71
Nov 15 2012, 12:43 PM
Love the strip, but need to point out that these guys are swimming in the ocean in Far north Queensland in (I assume) mid to late spring.

They do know that box jellyfish appear around about this time right?

...and that they usually kill more tourists per annum than the sharks, crocs and snakes put together? >:)

Just thought I'd point that out. :sweat:
I think it's safe to assume that the OACET Agents present have accounted for that. They are probably monitoring the water, or have some kind of passive jellyfish repellent in place. I dunno. I'm just kinda fishing right now.
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Nov 15 2012, 04:47 PM
"More than the rest put together" is still less than one a year - 66 documented (for everyone, not just tourists) since 1883. I've been feeling a little less impressed with the supposed deadliness of Australia since I learned the actual numbers. (Of course, I can certainly accept you need to be more alert and educated than in other places to prevent bites and keep bites from becoming fatal.)
Image search "box jellyfish sting" Ouch/ick/ouch/ouch/ouch.

The death count might not scare ya but the sting scars should.
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Gekko71
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Well, is it dangerous to the point of the public being warned not to swim there in that season, or just one of the risks people run?

"More than the rest put together" is still less than one a year - 66 documented (for everyone, not just tourists) since 1883. I've been feeling a little less impressed with the supposed deadliness of Australia since I learned the actual numbers. (Of course, I can certainly accept you need to be more alert and educated than in other places to prevent bites and keep bites from becoming fatal.)
It is definitely dangerous enough for people to be warned - The Queensland and Northern Territory governments put warning signs are everywhere up north and have advisory groups (http://www.marinestingers.com.au/pdf/msar_0910.pdf) to minimise the damage they do to both human life and our Toursim industry in general.

It would be more correct of me to say that Box Jellyfish "threaten more lives" each year than snakes, spiders and crocs combined.

Please don't be lulled into a false sense of security regarding our fauna. Deaths are minimal yes, but that because we're schooled in the dangers from birth and we've learnt to avoid them.

The death figures quoted on the website you sourced came from Wikipedia, and frankly I don't believe them. I've lived in Australia all my life, and the number of stings/deaths vary widely EG: http://www.destination-scuba.com/Box-Jellyfish.html

I can tell you categorically that from appearances, they are swimming at a beach without jellyfish nets.

These critters are hands-down the most dangerous (and feared) creatures found in Australia, and going into shallow coastal water in the tropics at this time of year is just plain suicidal.

Just sayin...

Still a bloody BRILLIANT web comic though! More please!! :clap:
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Please don't be lulled into a false sense of security regarding our fauna. Deaths are minimal yes, but that because we're schooled in the dangers from birth and we've learnt to avoid them.


I very much agree with that, as I said above. What I meant is that when the subject of Australian deadly fauna comes up, it's so stressed as to make the place sound like a Mad Max world.

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The death figures quoted on the website you sourced came from Wikipedia, and frankly I don't believe them. I've lived in Australia all my life, and the number of stings/deaths vary widely EG: http://www.destination-scuba.com/Box-Jellyfish.html


True, it does look off comparing it to this slightly more official source. For something more definitive I downloaded the Australian Bureau of Statistics's Causes of Death datasheet for 2001-2010.

Bitten or struck by dog: 15
Bitten or struck by other mammals: 30
Contact with marine animal: 16
Bitten or stung by nonvenomous insect and other nonvenomous arthropods: 3
Bitten or struck by crocodile or alligator: 9
Bitten or crushed by other reptiles: 1
Contact with venomous snakes and lizards: 18
Contact with venomous spiders: 0
Contact with scorpions: 0
Contact with hornets, wasps and bees: 17
Contact with centipedes and venomous millipedes (tropical): 0
Contact with other specified venomous arthropods: 0
Contact with venomous marine animals and plants: 5

This is out of 82,000 external-cause deaths over those 10 years.
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Nov 16 2012, 03:27 PM
True, it does look off comparing it to this slightly more official source. For something more definitive I downloaded the Australian Bureau of Statistics's Causes of Death datasheet for 2001-2010.
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Welcome Gekko71! I think the most important thing to remember is that this is a comic. I do try to do a lot of research and referencing, but some leeway has to be granted because it is a work of fiction. As the FAQ says, problems with factual accuracy should be directed to the talking koala.

(and thank you for the comments on the comic!)
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Nov 16 2012, 03:49 PM
Minivet, I think Archer needs you.
Why would you SAY that?!
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Nov 16 2012, 03:27 PM
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Bitten or stung by nonvenomous insect and other nonvenomous arthropods: 3
Contact with venomous marine animals and plants: 5



Bitten or stung by nonvenomous insect and other nonvenomous arthropods: 3
Contact with venomous marine animals and plants: 5


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Bitten or stung by non-venomous insect and other non-venomous arthropods: 3
Contact with venomous marine animals and plants: 5


contact with venomous marine animals and PLANTS. I.... thats a new one to me. and i live in Queensland. (I have heard of deaths from contact with terrestrial plants, but not marine plants. and i mean contact, not ingestion. fun times (no not really. from what i have ready, incredibly painful death.)

and how do you get killed by a non-venoumous insect/arthropod?


This is out of 82,000 external-cause deaths over those 10 years. keeping in mind that Australia has just over 1/14th of USA's Population. so 5 would be 68 with higher population density
(and the 18 from snakes becomes 247)

education keeps the numbers down, but the simple fact is people don't come into contact with the dangerous beasties very often. they mostly live where peolpe don't.
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Nov 17 2012, 02:03 AM
contact with venomous marine animals and PLANTS. I.... thats a new one to me. and i live in Queensland. (I have heard of deaths from contact with terrestrial plants, but not marine plants. and i mean contact, not ingestion. fun times (no not really. from what i have ready, incredibly painful death.)

and how do you get killed by a non-venoumous insect/arthropod?
Those are just the standard ICD-10 cause-of-death categories. Very likely all of those 5 deaths are from animals, not plants.

Not sure how it works with non-venomous insects/spiders. Allergic reactions? Or maybe there are some bites that are poisonous / dangerous without technically being venomous.
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Nov 16 2012, 03:49 PM
Welcome Gekko71! I think the most important thing to remember is that this is a comic. I do try to do a lot of research and referencing, but some leeway has to be granted because it is a work of fiction. As the FAQ says, problems with factual accuracy should be directed to the talking koala.

(and thank you for the comments on the comic!)
Delighted to be here Otter, thank you for having me.

AGAHF is not just a comic. Please don't sell yourself short.

Your strip is comedy within conspiracy; sprinkled with intellect, wrapped in sexual tension, marinated in witty banter and deep-fried in an acid trip - incomparable and delightful in equal measure.

:clap: :clap: Bravo!! :clap: :clap:

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Nov 17 2012, 05:51 AM
Delighted to be here Otter, thank you for having me.

AGAHF is not just a comic. Please don't sell yourself short.

Your strip is comedy within conspiracy; sprinkled with intellect, wrapped in sexual tension, marinated in witty banter and deep-fried in an acid trip - incomparable and delightful in equal measure.

:clap: :clap: Bravo!! :clap: :clap:

Damn, dude. That was... eloquent. Lots of simple words but the best way to describe your description of AGAF is a bit above simple.

And on the general topic of death by nonvenomous insect/arthropod - There is a difference between 'venom' and 'poison' and that's probably the case here. A scorpion, for example, uses venom - the venom is injected via a stinger. Toads are poisonous, they simply have nasty substances as part of their natural defenses and touching or ingesting these substances fxxxs you up.

Granted toads aren't arthropods or insects they're amphibians but who cares my point still stands. :P
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