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Comic for 06 Aug 2012; Fork me? FORK YOU!
Topic Started: Aug 6 2012, 05:40 AM (505 Views)
Taolan
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Aww, but mom, that's a fun prank!

And the odds of someone actually being electrocuted by it are slim to none. A nice shock, sure. Death is unlikely.

Cause the fun part is waiting for some dumbass to pull it out unprotected.
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Amrynel
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That depends at least partially on whether the building was wired to code with a working safety switch or not!

Also, at least in our-world Australia, the supply is 240VAC/50Hz, not America's 110VAC/60Hz, and the sockets are a different shape! Looks like in the world of AGAHF - unless today's strip is a flashback to the US or artistic license/oversight - it seems Australia adopted the American socket rather than roll its own.

In case folks find it of interest, here - http://wikitravel.org/en/Electrical_systems - is one of many sites that outline the different shapes, voltages and frequencies internationally, as well noting the potential pitfalls thereof for international tourists. :)

Edit: PS as an Aussie have to say I'm looking especially forward to reading this part of the comic!
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Minivet
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They might still be in the airport (National, I'd guess, from the earlier decor).

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Aug 6 2012, 10:27 AM
Also, at least in our-world Australia, the supply is 240VAC/50Hz, not America's 110VAC/60Hz, and the sockets are a different shape!
Fie upon thee! I just registered just so I could point out this mistake!

Oh well, I'm sure I'll get into mischief elsewhere.
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Taolan
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Argent
Aug 6 2012, 04:19 PM
Amrynel
Aug 6 2012, 10:27 AM
Also, at least in our-world Australia, the supply is 240VAC/50Hz, not America's 110VAC/60Hz, and the sockets are a different shape!
Fie upon thee! I just registered just so I could point out this mistake!

Oh well, I'm sure I'll get into mischief elsewhere.
Welcome to the fold newbie! Long time reader or just pick it up?
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Minivet
Aug 6 2012, 01:29 PM
They might still be in the airport (National, I'd guess, from the earlier decor).
Oh, good point! For some reason I was thinking they had arrived at the Australian airport, not still departing at the American airport.

Did I mention I was *really* looking forward to them arriving in Australia? Too forward, I guess! ;)
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Aug 6 2012, 08:58 PM
Welcome to the fold newbie! Long time reader or just pick it up?
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Aug 7 2012, 04:33 AM
Did I mention I was *really* looking forward to them arriving in Australia? Too forward, I guess! ;)
I wonder if they'll meet the ghost of Hary Holt
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... Hmm. Can someone run past me the exact criteria for major ghosthood again? Australia tends to idolise its cultural heroes (and antiheroes) just as much as its politicians and scientists, and many of all of these categories are strongly woven into the spiritual fabric of the nation and a few are even famous internationally. I can count more Aussie icons off the top of my head than I have fingers and toes.
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demonhunter
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Oh... Oh gods...

I just realised... They aren't likely to run into the ghosts of Ned Kelly or Banjo Patterson...

They're going to run into the ghost of Steve bloody Irwin.

Crikey!
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Aug 8 2012, 12:09 AM


They're going to run into the ghost of Steve bloody Irwin.
Oh sh*t. You're right. Hadn't even considered him.

We'll just pretend this doesn't make complete logical sense, okay? :-)

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demonhunter
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Okay. How about instead...

Graeme "Shirley" Strachan, lead singer of Skyhooks, died in a helicopter crash northwest of Brisbane in 2001.

Slim Dusty, Australia's biggest country music icon EVER.

Look 'em both up on Wikipedia if you have to. Slim Dusty's achievements are quite impressive.
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Amrynel
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Heh heh, oh yes, Steve was one of the icons I immediately thought of (along with Banjo and Ned and Don and Lawson and Bert...). :D

Though if the AGAHF-verse is sufficiently divergent enough from ours by 2006, it could be AGAHF's Steve is still embodied (it was pretty darn unlucky how he went). Or if not, perhaps at the time of our heroes' visit Down Under he's off walkabout, exploring the Aussie afterlife... and now I'm wondering about the nature of the Dreamtime in the AGAHF-verse, given the apparent ability of ghosts to shape (their part of) the afterworld.

Thanks Otter!
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Celebrities don't become ghosts, though, so I think we're Steve Irwin-free (and others) by default. It's only politicians, soldiers, and explorers who stick around.
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Aug 8 2012, 01:12 PM
Celebrities don't become ghosts, though, so I think we're Steve Irwin-free (and others) by default. It's only politicians, soldiers, and explorers who stick around.
I think Steve counts as an explorer, but he's more likely exploring the afterlife (and cheesing off various denizens thereof) than bothering psychics.
Edited by Argent, Aug 8 2012, 01:33 PM.
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Amrynel
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I'd have to agree that Steve fits the explorer mould - he became a celebrity because of that, not the other way around. I've been rereading old AGAHF, though, and the cosmology certainly allows quite the measure of plausible deniability as to why Steve mightn't be around to greet our heroes even besides the probability he's off exploring the next universe or, if still in this one, exploring it instead (and I imagine even if one instantly grokked how to teleport at will, exploring all the natural wonders that Earth has to offer is still going to take some time!).

But it hasn't made me any less curious as to just who our Girl and Her Fed will meet down under. :)
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I don't know if Irwin would be an explorer in the sense used in the explanation of who can become ghosts. It's politicians, soldiers (for which, I imagine, we should really read leaders rather than footsoldiers), and explorers - collectively, people with a great interest in humanity and things like "how this country of ours will grow." I think that's more likely to be the explorers who were seeking out new lands to take over or sea routes to trade over, in contrast to Irwin, who was exploring nature.

Remember also that Hope never saw a single ghost in India, and a resulting hypothesis is that you need cultural commonality with ghosts to see them (if they're even real people and not some outgrowth of the national imagination).
Edited by Minivet, Aug 9 2012, 02:11 AM.
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Aug 9 2012, 02:10 AM
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It's politicians, soldiers (for which, I imagine, we should really read leaders rather than footsoldiers), and explorers
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Remember also that Hope never saw a single ghost in India, and a resulting hypothesis is that you need cultural commonality with ghosts to see them (if they're even real people and not some outgrowth of the national imagination).
We saw FOOT soldiers at a civil war battle ground. Including the guy who loves shoes.

I'm HOPEing that a common language (sort of) will help with the commonality.
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Aug 9 2012, 02:50 AM
We saw FOOT soldiers at a civil war battle ground. Including the guy who loves shoes.

I'm HOPEing that a common language (sort of) will help with the commonality.
Oh, right. Oops. And they weren't there to watch the country grow, they just had some kind of attachment complex. So there are more reasons someone might stay.
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tanonev
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Didn't Hope say that she couldn't see any ghosts when she traveled abroad?

Also, on the note of soldiers becoming ghosts: the ones Hope visited stayed behind because they were "trapped", so to speak, unwilling/unable? to move on. Why did they adopt the "dress code", then?
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demonhunter
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Oh man, I just had an idea.

While touring a major sports stadium, Hope and the others spot a bunch of aussie ghosts, including Australia's first prime minister... Playing cricket. Because why the hell not?
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Amrynel
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Warning: verbal waterfall ahead.

I tend to agree with the commonality hypothesis, although I'd temper it with the fact that people initially only seem able to perceive the most powerful (or focused) ghosts even when actively looking, and become more sensitive with exposure. (Personally) I imagine it's a combination of the transmission power, matching frequency bands (commonality) and the receiver's sensitivity that determines whether someone alive can see someone dead, and back when she was touring the world she really hadn't developed her ability much (she might even have been subsconsciously repressing it).

I also wonder if it's not so much "culture" as "perspective". Culture, language, history; these things influence our very patterns of thought, the way we perceive the universe. I'm told that there are concepts expressed in some languages that have no exact translation in others, which would not surprise me if true. English has a long and bloody history of mugging other languages for their vocabulary.

Anyway, regarding that idea of commonality and what's about to happen in the comic: (a) I'd opine Australia has considerably stronger political, military and cultural ties to America than India does, (b) historically the nation is practically a quilt of cultural ties to the US, UK, CN, DE, IT, NL, NZ, ZA, etc, all laid over a far more ancient tribal quilt, and (c) as an anglocentric-ish cultural melting pot it may well be a good place for us to see through our heroes' the consequences for the AGAHF-verse of the nascent blurring of cultural boundaries due to the rapid rise of the Internet - at least, if our heroes are there long enough. They're on a Mission, after all. :D

(@tanonev: re the soldier pixies, yes, I wondered that too)
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