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Comic for 19 March 2012
Topic Started: Mar 19 2012, 03:52 PM (387 Views)
Minivet
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I like Clarice's expression in panel 1 - Pat finally ripped away her nonchalantly-on-top-of-things mask.

Calvin looks a bit off, though. My impression is maybe his cheeks are a little too plump. Of course he might prefer to look younger than when he was president, but a college photo on his Wikipedia entry suggests he was similarly gaunt then too.
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I like how Pat goes from Business (projection) to Casual (projection) after Clarice is gone.
He also goes from a "chair" to sitting on the floor next to Mike.

Pat was casual as well when he entered the scene but suited up when Clarice took the pendant off Mike's neck.

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I like Calvin Coolidge if only because he was the most laconic president we've ever had.

At a state dinner, a campaign contributor sat next to him and said, "Mr. President, my friend and I have a wager that I can get you to say more than three words tonight."

Calvin looked at him, flashed his teeth in a poor approximation of a smile, and said, "You lose." He didn't speak the rest of the night.

And, Otter, do you really get so much abuse over this comic that you feel you've failed? That's hard to believe.

I don't think my fragile little ego could handle that. I'd often wanted to try to do a webcomic since most of my attempts at writing were action based, and even penned a script for the first issue and plotted out half a dozen more, but my problem was always a matter of artistic ability and programming savvy. I'm completely colorblind and have suffered so much nerve damage in my hands that working a keyboard is tricky, let alone a pen or stylus. Plus anything to do with electronics, especially computers, and I'm stuck back in the Stone Age. Did you do all your own site programming?
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But IS that Calvin? Not, for example, Henry (in full-sized appearance, not winged pixie. We've seen that Ben can assume both at will), ready to negotiate?

Perhaps it will be clear on Thursday.

That *is* a rather long utterance, for Calvin.
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djheydt
Mar 19 2012, 06:56 PM
But IS that Calvin? Not, for example, Henry (in full-sized appearance, not winged pixie. We've seen that Ben can assume both at will), ready to negotiate?

Perhaps it will be clear on Thursday.

That *is* a rather long utterance, for Calvin.
See the alt-text.
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Mar 19 2012, 06:56 PM

That *is* a rather long utterance, for Calvin.
It's really not, though. The "never said a word" thing was more of an affectation than a trait. Here, check out one of his speeches.* He could be a long-winded dude when he wanted to be.

He did seem to believe it was necessary to think before he spoke, but I get the feeling he had a good sense of humor and liked to give others enough rope to hang themselves. Pat really likes him; if Ben is Hope's personal ghost, Calvin is Pat's.

*I love this speech. Plenty of good pull-quotes in there that are still as applicable today as back then.



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djheydt
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Mar 19 2012, 07:38 PM
djheydt
Mar 19 2012, 06:56 PM
But IS that Calvin? Not, for example, Henry (in full-sized appearance, not winged pixie. We've seen that Ben can assume both at will), ready to negotiate?

Perhaps it will be clear on Thursday.

That *is* a rather long utterance, for Calvin.
See the alt-text.
Oh. So it is. I never remember to look at those ... my reflex is to keep the cursor the heck OFF the text so I can read it. Thanks.
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I love this speech. Plenty of good pull-quotes in there that are still as applicable today as back then


No kidding. "The power of the spirit prevails over the power of the flesh" is one with particular pertinence to this story, I think.

I can see why Calvin has become Pat's ghostpal. Their personalities are both progressive and realistic. And I'm still interested to see what it is that Pat and Washington fight over.

Total non-sequiter, it would be freaking hilarious for Genghis Khan's ghost to show up and give advice on how to swiftly gain power and administrate something so large-scale as the American government. Might not necessarily be useful, but darned funny.

Back to serious business, because sad Pat is sadder than sad Keanu--Crud, my sleeping meds just kicked in and I'm totally losing it. Hope I can make sense before I start spelling out murmering noises and Chuck Norris jokes--I'm guessing that travel through the hereafter for the ghosts is not instantaneous. The fact that ghosts take time to be called up, can be waylaid (wards?), and have business elsewhere much of time is essential to allow Hope and Pat to act without a constant safety net. If we know that Ben can swoop in like an overly amorous, pudgy, bewinged deus ex machina whenever the bull poo hits the fan, we lose a lot of the suspense that we had when Clarice attacked Hope. But that raises other questions. Okay, now that all that's out of the way, my wandering wonderings lead me to pondering Ben's frequent nattering about going yonder to the hereafter. Will we ever actually know what it is that Ben is up to when he suddenly has to go? Is it pertinent to the story, or can we chalk it up to the occaisional call of supernature?
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Mar 20 2012, 06:04 AM
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Total non-sequiter, it would be freaking hilarious for Genghis Khan's ghost to show up and give advice on how to swiftly gain power and administrate something so large-scale as the American government.


Niccolo Machiavelli?

Sun Tzu?
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While it has nice quotes, I feel compelled to point out the speech slowly moves toward explicitly rationalizing the ownership of the press by the rich and powerful, and more generally the extremely laissez-faire attitude that "the business of the American people is business" (was this the first time he said that?) and welcoming of enormous wealth, which served the country so well in the decade to come.

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Of course, the accumulation of wealth can not be justified as the chief end of existence. But we are compelled to recognize it as a means to well nigh every desirable achievement. So long as wealth is made the means and not the end, we need not greatly fear it. And there never was a time when wealth was so generally regarded as a means, or so little regarded as an end, as today.


Even supposing that this was true at the time (which I'm not sure of), it is very much less so now.

An interesting discussion of our attitudes toward work and wealth today (at least as reflected in reality TV) and how they're closer to 1850's than 1940's attitudes.
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Mar 21 2012, 04:26 PM
While it has nice quotes, I feel compelled to point out the speech slowly moves toward explicitly rationalizing the ownership of the press by the rich and powerful, and more generally the extremely laissez-faire attitude that "the business of the American people is business" (was this the first time he said that?) and welcoming of enormous wealth, which served the country so well in the decade to come.
Oh absolutely, no question. There's a reason that Coolidge got a nice little resurgence in popularity (referring to real life, not the comic timeline, obviously) during the Reagan Era.

I would also like to point out that Coolidge was probably referring to the ideas that the business class (a) was believed to have the resources to act as caretakers; and (b) had the work ethic needed to promote stability in enterprises. The first point is probably a holdover of Industrial Age sentiments, the second probably a dig at those dratted shiftless immigrants and the shameless bums (so strange how those two ideas can coexist, considering how philanthropy during the Industrial Age was designed to help the working poor, who were generally loathed).

- Never send a ferret to do a weasel's work.

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Chrysophase2003
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That's the problem with optimism, I suppose. Someone always ruins it for everybody else by proving man's greedy, selfish nature. You just can't trust people to do what's right, and that seems (at least to an apolitical layman like me) to be the fundamental flaw in any form of government.
If you can't live without me, why aren't you dead yet?

I used to do drugs. I still do, but I used to, too.

If God wants all the credit, he's getting all the blame.
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djheydt
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Mar 21 2012, 08:10 PM
That's the problem with optimism, I suppose. Someone always ruins it for everybody else by proving man's greedy, selfish nature. You just can't trust people to do what's right, and that seems (at least to an apolitical layman like me) to be the fundamental flaw in any form of government.
Well, let me quote somebody who knew something about politics: Winston S. Churchill. He said in 1947,

"Many forms of Government have been tried, and will be tried in this world of sin and woe. No one pretends that democracy is perfect or all-wise. Indeed, it has been said that democracy is the worst form of government except all those other forms that have been tried from time to time."

By the way, is there any particular reason why Pat goes from shirt&tie in panel 1 to T-shirt in panel 2?

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Mar 22 2012, 04:14 AM
By the way, is there any particular reason why Pat goes from shirt&tie in panel 1 to T-shirt in panel 2?
It appears his suit is a small bit of emotional armor to help him deal with Clarice. He switched from T-shirt to suit earlier, when he started talking turkey with her.
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